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This is the fine-adjuster to LMS 4700 Mill.

Have somebody made a lock for this?

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My adjuster is moving (turning) when I am milling, and before I am doing something stupid, I want an advice from you.

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Best regards

Johannes

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Re: Constant surface speed cutting CSS

 

Thanks for posting, very interesting!!

Youtube had problems loading your video.

I'd like to see a photo of the sliding pot and a wiring diagram.

It is really nice to increase the speed as you get a smaller diameter.

Ralph


Re: diamond bits

Chris Albertson
 

These are abrasive blades. ? Abrasive work for the cut-off job because only a tiny part of the blade is in contact with the metal. ? Abrasives don't work as well for drilling holes in metal

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 6:58 PM, stan2778@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:
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We also have 14" diamond blades for rebar on the big gas powered cutoff saws, but again, the guys think they are masonry and not very goo for that.




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Re: Constant surface speed cutting CSS

 

Glad to know that my mini is not the only one that gets pretty loud. :)


Constant surface speed cutting CSS

 

Thought this may be of interest.A mod I did 2-3 years ago.




Sorry, for the quality of the video as I am not?a professional movie maker.


As I regularly cut largish?diameter bar up to 120 mm dia, held in a standard 4" (100mm ) Chuck

using special soft jaws, I decided it would be practical?and doable to increase the cutting?RPM?s as I moved to the center.thus constantly changing the cutting surface speed keeping to optimums.


This avoids taking one hand off the cross slide handle to alter the speed on the lathe control box pot and

therefore not creating ?"dwell" marks on the surface as you are cutting.


I like to use hands crossing over one another when feeding, that's the reason I made larger hand wheels than

those silly "spoke" ?type that came with the machine.


The CSS principle is similar?to CNC lathes using the G96 and cancels with G97 codes.


Very basically, the wiring configuration is a sliding "pot" attached to the top of the cross slide,

similar to the types found in recording studios etc.

This sliding?pot is wired into the two other pots that control and set the starting and finishing speeds

as determined by the type of metal to be cut,?

From there to the original pot on the lathe control box.

There is a 3-way switch and the 2 ?start and?finish speed pot knobs on the CSS plastic control box that is adjacent to the main lathe control box.

The 3-way switch allows CSS and or normal lathe and the center position isolates the CSS and the main lathe pot.


It all works very well.


I fitted my?own gear reduction drive unit to the lathe, that?s why I can get good torque and good cutting out at large diameters without stalling the machine.


Thanks, again?may be of interest to some of the forum members.


John

Spain






Re: diamond bits

 

I have one of these at home. I want to put it on my 14" Dewalt electric chop saw, if it works, it would be great. The electric is no where near as fast as the gas saw. I stopped using the dewalt much when i bought a bandsaw .Bandsaws are not as intense as a chopsaw, but chopsaw will cut axles, bandsaw wont.


Re: diamond bits

William Thrasher
 

Thanks I been looking for something like this my wife does not like the smell of burned carbon.? One of these blades should do the trick. Thanks again.



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I use these occasionally, they work quite well. they seem to disappear from work so i dont know how long they last. Most of the guys think they are for masonry. Nope, cut steel with a standard angle grinder, dry. have one on my cordless grinder, use it like a standard cutoff. Available at lowes too.


Re: diamond bits

 

We also have 14" diamond blades for rebar on the big gas powered cutoff saws, but again, the guys think they are masonry and not very goo for that.


Re: diamond bits

 

I use these occasionally, they work quite well. they seem to disappear from work so i dont know how long they last. Most of the guys think they are for masonry. Nope, cut steel with a standard angle grinder, dry. have one on my cordless grinder, use it like a standard cutoff. Available at lowes too.


Re: diamond bits

 

Mario,

You can successfully drill through 62-64 Rc hardened steels using shop made carbide spade drills. ?The spade drills I use are made from micrograin round carbide tool blanks. The geometry I use is simple but you need a means to control the grinding such as a Deckel tool and cutter grinder or clone. ?I use a Quorn tool grinder because that is what I have. ?The drill needs to be run at high speed and you cannot let it dwell in one spot or it will need to be resharpened. ?The high speed tends to soften the steel directly under the drill. Don't use coolant -run it dry.
You can also buy these drills but they are expensive and they will be a one shot proposition unless you have the capability to properly sharpen.

I have also used hand ground spade drills for one off situations such as cross drilling through chrome plated Thompson linear way shafting. ?I did this in my mini lathe with a hand ground carbide spade drill. I got the holes I needed and saved the day at little cost.

I'm goind to see if I have one of those drills to post a photo link.

Dick


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Diamond hones are great for hand sharpening - the temperature stays low enough to not damage the hone. (They're made by embedding diamond powder in nickel plating.) ?Diamond drills/hole saws are a different animal. They're actually just shaped abrasive tools, so they don't cut the way a drill does, they just grind their way through. They're nice on non-metallic things, much less effective & more expensive than classic abrasives (aluminum oxide or silicon carbide) on metals.

Roy


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Hi Chris,

An expensive experiment is to burn some [diamond] with a match

This is actually a cheap and boring experiment - nothing will happen......

All the best,
Ian


On 21 Jul 2017, at 19:04, Chris Albertson albertson.chris@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:

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No, diamond will not cut metal very well.? That is because the cutting angels are random.? They cut glass and ceramic by fracturing it and metal does not fracture.

There are abrasives blades that cut metal but they depend on heat and the metal glows red.? Chop saws are like that. ? A diamond would burn up in flame if heated to red hot.? Diamonds will burn just like coal, An expensive experiment is to burn some with a match

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Mario Mohl mario.mohl@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:
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Do we think these would (reasonably) drill through HSS ?

Just curious.




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Admittedly my experience ?with diamond honing of steel is all hand work, but nothing I know says diamond won't ?work. Water for coolant is the way to go. Lots of water.

Bill in OKC?



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Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] diamond bits

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No, diamond will not cut metal very well.? That is because the cutting angels are random.? They cut glass and ceramic by fracturing it and metal does not fracture.

There are abrasives blades that cut metal but they depend on heat and the metal glows red.? Chop saws are like that. ? A diamond would burn up in flame if heated to red hot.? Diamonds will burn just like coal, An expensive experiment is to burn some with a match

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Mario Mohl mario.mohl@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:
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Do we think these would (reasonably) drill through HSS ?

Just curious.




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Hello John,
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I will respectfully disagree with your comment of the drill bits from HF (Harbor Freight).
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Now while I did have a small drill bit set from HF?back in the late 70's that was of very poor quality, improperly ground tips, bent drills right out of the box,?questionable hardness -?dulled immediately.?I know that the quality has now improved. I purchased a 115 drill bit set from HF?a while back and was very pleasantly surprised by its quality. Now I did buy the more expensive?Cobalt drill bit?set ($109.99) fearing the quality of the lower end HSS ($34.99) or Titanium M2 coated set ($49.99). All of these prices are list every day prices, and often go on sale and of course take off an extra 25% with a coupon.
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I'd have no problem recommending them to anyone looking fro a set of drill bits
Michael - California, USA
Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16
LMS 3990 Hi-Torque Mill with power feed



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If the material is not hardened, I would just use a good high-speed steel drill.
I would not use any drill from HF since they are suspect.
John

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Mario Mohl mario.mohl@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:
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Do we think these would (reasonably) drill through HSS ?

Just curious.



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Those are small hole saws. They have a hollow section in the center. And no they would not work well for drilling steel.
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The from looking at photo at the bottom of the ad, they don't appear to be of very high quality either, if the photos are of what you actually get.

Michael - California, USA
Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16
LMS 3990 Hi-Torque Mill with power feed



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Do we think these would (reasonably) drill through HSS ?

Just curious.


Re: diamond bits

Jerry Durand
 

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Be careful sharpening carbide, it's a fine powder bonded with nickel.? Breathing nickel dust is not good, wear a mask.

On 07/21/2017 11:52 AM, Chris Albertson albertson.chris@... [7x12minilathe] wrote:
They make solid carbide bits.? Not as hard as diamond but the shape is correct for drilling metal. ? I've only used really tiny solid carbide bits for drilling holes in epoxy fiber glass circuit board material. ??

Apparently carbide bits can be resharpened. ? The set I bought was used but resharpened. ?


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??? ??? That is impressive Mario! I had to cut fins in an aluminum Stirling Engine cylinder and I fabricated a blade from a carbon steel (Chinese) hacksaw blade. Ground the end leaving a tit on it. Heated it red and tapped it with a small hammer mushrooming the tit. Then ground it leaving it wider than the blade. Very effectively cut 16 fins.? Bill in Boulder CO USA


On 7/21/2017 11:49 AM, Mario Mohl mario.mohl@... [7x12minilathe] wrote:

After the previous, rather surprising, good results with the (then) .032" very thin parting tool, I?m considering going for broke. Parting off 1" CRS with not a wince from the machine, smooth curly chips all the way and a remarkably good surface finish was a revelation.
I'm toying with mounting an .016" ?blade and aiming / exploring fairly deep cut capability. 2" OD?. The little sliver of HSS just needs some tender, loving support so I may need to mount it accordingly. May try to drill it, may opt for grinding slots.
Part of the success with the .032" blade has found an explanation. Unknown to me at the time, further research and careful measuring have revealed those slitting saws are actually, minutely hollow ground, hence their good behavior. Now, ?can I stretch this any further?
The next limit, I fear, will be getting enough lube into the slit. Maybe I need to design the blade so it carries the lube into the cutting area while still ejecting the chips?

The best part is that it's all for no good reason.



On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Bill Williams BWMSBLDR1@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:
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?What are you doing?? Bill in Boulder





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On 7/21/2017 12:29 PM, Mario Mohl mario.mohl@... [7x12minilathe] wrote:
Do we think these diamond bits <> would (reasonably) drill through HSS ?
Just curious.
Bits in the link will cut hss but not drill it very deep before you are replacing it with a new. If the hss is hardened you can use a carbid drill but that isn't fun either. Tell us your plans and we can give you better help.
Jim
Ann Arbor


Re: diamond bits

Chris Albertson
 

They make solid carbide bits.? Not as hard as diamond but the shape is correct for drilling metal. ? I've only used really tiny solid carbide bits for drilling holes in epoxy fiber glass circuit board material. ??

Apparently carbide bits can be resharpened. ? The set I bought was used but resharpened. ?

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Mario Mohl mario.mohl@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:
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After the previous, rather surprising, good results with the (then) .032" very thin parting tool, I?m considering going for broke. Parting off 1" CRS with not a wince from the machine, smooth curly chips all the way and a remarkably good surface finish was a revelation.
I'm toying with mounting an .016" ?blade and aiming / exploring fairly deep cut capability. 2" OD?. The little sliver of HSS just needs some tender, loving support so I may need to mount it accordingly. May try to drill it, may opt for grinding slots.
Part of the success with the .032" blade has found an explanation. Unknown to me at the time, further research and careful measuring have revealed those slitting saws are actually, minutely hollow ground, hence their good behavior. Now, ?can I stretch this any further?
The next limit, I fear, will be getting enough lube into the slit. Maybe I need to design the blade so it carries the lube into the cutting area while still ejecting the chips?

The best part is that it's all for no good reason.



On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Bill Williams BWMSBLDR1@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:
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?What are you doing?? Bill in Boulder






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Redondo Beach, California


Re: diamond bits

Chris Albertson
 

No, diamond will not cut metal very well.? That is because the cutting angels are random.? They cut glass and ceramic by fracturing it and metal does not fracture.

There are abrasives blades that cut metal but they depend on heat and the metal glows red.? Chop saws are like that. ? A diamond would burn up in flame if heated to red hot.? Diamonds will burn just like coal, An expensive experiment is to burn some with a match

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Mario Mohl mario.mohl@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:
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Do we think these would (reasonably) drill through HSS ?

Just curious.




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Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach, California