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Re: Newb question about using the apron hand wheel.

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I ground a ¡°skew¡± bit for finishing cuts where I want a mirror finish. It won¡¯t take but maybe .003¡± DOC, but it¡¯s very smooth. And, of course your technique is the only way.
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Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 6:47 PM
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Re: Newb question about using the apron hand wheel.
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To get a nice finish using the carriage handwheel, use a round nose toolbit,
and turn the wheel slowly, using the rim, with both hands to keep it moving
smoothly.

Mert


Re: Newb question about 1/8" cutting tools

 

?Hi Jeremy
I use them on my 8x12 HF lathe but only on very small work. I got HSS stock from Whole Sale Tool Supply (1/2" to fit my tool post) and grind my own.
You can order on-line. Get what fits you tool post and shim it to the right hight. I took a feller gauge apart and used them for shims .030 and .035 are the ones I use the most. unless you have a QC tool post I choose not to go that wrought. ?
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Regards Robert


From: cptwinderatgmaildotcom
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2013 7:16 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Newb question about 1/8" cutting tools

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When I purchased my lathe, I also purchased a few sets of cutting tools:





The first ones, the carbide, are completely junk. None of the angles are correct. It is almost like the carbide was brazed on upside down.

I have had decent luck with the HSS cutters in the second set. However, they are so small 1/8", you have to use the holders. The holders cause the cutter tip to be a significant distance from the tool post decreasing rigidity.

Does anyone else use the tinny cutters and if so what holders do you use?

Thanks,

Jeremy




Re: Newb question about 1/8" cutting tools

 

That's almost identical to the set I got from Wholesale Tool. HF was
out of them when I went and WT matched the price.


On Sat, 2 Feb 2013, Pete Lilja wrote:

I've been pretty happy with the sets of these indexable carbide bits from
HF. And with a 20% off coupon I like them even better.



Iowa Pete

On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 6:16 PM, cptwinderatgmaildotcom
<cptwinder@...>wrote:

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When I purchased my lathe, I also purchased a few sets of cutting tools:





The first ones, the carbide, are completely junk. None of the angles are
correct. It is almost like the carbide was brazed on upside down.

I have had decent luck with the HSS cutters in the second set. However,
they are so small 1/8", you have to use the holders. The holders cause the
cutter tip to be a significant distance from the tool post decreasing
rigidity.

Does anyone else use the tinny cutters and if so what holders do you use?

Thanks,

Jeremy



Vince.
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The Foggy Mist Emporium


Re: Newb question about 1/8" cutting tools

 

I've been pretty happy with the sets of these indexable carbide bits from HF.? And with a 20% off coupon I like them even better.



Iowa Pete


On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 6:16 PM, cptwinderatgmaildotcom <cptwinder@...> wrote:
?

When I purchased my lathe, I also purchased a few sets of cutting tools:





The first ones, the carbide, are completely junk. None of the angles are correct. It is almost like the carbide was brazed on upside down.

I have had decent luck with the HSS cutters in the second set. However, they are so small 1/8", you have to use the holders. The holders cause the cutter tip to be a significant distance from the tool post decreasing rigidity.

Does anyone else use the tinny cutters and if so what holders do you use?

Thanks,

Jeremy



Re: Newb question about 1/8" cutting tools

 

No, I only use HSS ground from blanks from littlemachineshop.com and
a carbide set I got from Wholesale Tool (wttool.com).



On Sun, 3 Feb 2013, cptwinderatgmaildotcom wrote:

When I purchased my lathe, I also purchased a few sets of cutting tools:





The first ones, the carbide, are completely junk. None of the angles are correct. It is almost like the carbide was brazed on upside down.

I have had decent luck with the HSS cutters in the second set. However, they are so small 1/8", you have to use the holders. The holders cause the cutter tip to be a significant distance from the tool post decreasing rigidity.

Does anyone else use the tinny cutters and if so what holders do you use?

Thanks,

Jeremy



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Vince.
--
Michigan VHF Corp.
The Foggy Mist Emporium


Newb question about 1/8" cutting tools

 

When I purchased my lathe, I also purchased a few sets of cutting tools:





The first ones, the carbide, are completely junk. None of the angles are correct. It is almost like the carbide was brazed on upside down.

I have had decent luck with the HSS cutters in the second set. However, they are so small 1/8", you have to use the holders. The holders cause the cutter tip to be a significant distance from the tool post decreasing rigidity.

Does anyone else use the tinny cutters and if so what holders do you use?

Thanks,

Jeremy


Re: (unknown)

MERTON B BAKER
 

Same toolbit?

Mert

-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 5:04 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] (unknown)


Hi I just set up a new micro- mark 7x16 mini lathe I also have a 7 x10
harbor freight mini lathe the micro- mark is chattering on me even on light
cuts if I use same setup on my harbor freight no chatter at all? Can someone
help me I have no idea why?



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Re: Selling a Grizzly 8688 7 X 12

MERTON B BAKER
 

Only have two hands. One at a time. Some small jobs go quicker on the
small lathes, as I don't have to swap the belts around like on the 12x36.
The 3 7xs all have different chucks on, as well.

Mert

-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of aalloway
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 4:44 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Selling a Grizzly 8688 7 X 12


At the same time, or independently?

(;-)

----- Original Message -----
From: "MERTON B BAKER" <mertbaker@...>
To: <7x12minilathe@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 7:31 AM
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Selling a Grizzly 8688 7 X 12


Whee! I have 5 in use, and another 10 or so in my "collection".

Mert



-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of aalloway
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 10:25 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Selling a Grizzly 8688 7 X 12


Thanks Mert, Yeah I know............................but the SIEG SC4 will
make (4) four lathes, my wife says that's probably enough!
allen

-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]
On Behalf Of Mert
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 3:46 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Selling a Grizzly 8688 7 X 12


Don't be in too big a hurry to sell that 7x, unless you are pressed for
room. I bought 3 7xs after I had a 12x36 for bigger stuff., & I still use
my little Uni DB after 50 years. Mert

On 02/01/13, captaalloway wrote:

I just ordered a LMS 8 1/2 X 16. I'm going to sell my 7 X 12. NO ISSUES
with
the lathe, I just need a bigger machine. I live on an island in SE Alaska.
I'll crate it up and send it to Seattle. From there to wherever in ends up
will be on the buyer.
The lathe has a number of upgrades, LMS Tach, Carriage Lock and Stop, Hand
Crank on the Leadscrew, A2Z QCTP and more! PM if interested, it'll be on
eBay soon!

Dictum Factum,
Allen, On An Island



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Re: Newb question about using the apron hand wheel.

MERTON B BAKER
 

To get a nice finish using the carriage handwheel, use a round nose toolbit,
and turn the wheel slowly, using the rim, with both hands to keep it moving
smoothly.

Mert

-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Jeremy Winder
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 6:17 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Newb question about using the apron hand
wheel.





I want to thank everyone for the input. I went out today and practiced
using the apron wheel. It is a lot harder to get a mirror like finish then
the compound slide. But I did discover I can make good cuts by turn the
wheel itself instead of the handle. More practice is needed. A lot more
practice.


Thanks again,


Jeremy


Re: Newb question about using the apron hand wheel.

 

I want to thank everyone for the input. I went out today and practiced using the apron wheel. It is a lot harder to get a mirror like finish then the compound slide. But I did discover I can make good cuts by turn the wheel itself instead of the handle. More practice is needed. A lot more practice.

Thanks again,

Jeremy


Re: (unknown)

 

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Did you properly adjust ALL of?the gibs?
There are three gib adjustment screws on the compound, three on the cross slide, and six on the carriage.

Michael - USA
Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16


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From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 2:04 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] (unknown)

?

Hi I just set up a new micro- mark 7x16 mini lathe I also have a 7 x10 harbor freight mini lathe the micro- mark is chattering on me even on light cuts if I use same setup on my harbor freight no chatter at all? Can someone help me I have no idea why?


Re: (unknown)

 

Check the tool height first, also the jibs may need snugging up. Are you using the same cutter on each lathe?Same speed,and stock diameter?
The new lathe may need a bit of a tune up. Does the tool post rock or move in any way when facing or turning?
mike


From: Bill
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2013 5:03 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] (unknown)

?
Hi I just set up a new micro- mark 7x16 mini lathe I also have a 7 x10 harbor freight mini lathe the micro- mark is chattering on me even on light cuts if I use same setup on my harbor freight no chatter at all? Can someone help me I have no idea why?




Re: 100mm spindle source in US?

 

It's an item from Real Bull, rather than Seig, but it is to the same specs, apart from the 100mm flange. There are several RB dealers here in the UK, but as far as I know, Amadeal is the only one offering it.

The only US supplier of RBs which ever gets mentioned on this group is Big Dog Metalworks < >. Their 7 x 14 has a 100mm chuck, and judging by the picture, the spindle has a flange to match. Maybe you could contact them to ask if they can supply the spindle.

Andy

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "machinist1930" wrote:

Is Amadeal the only place the 100mm spindle is available from? Just checking if there may be a US source. Seems like no, but figured I'd ask in case I missed it in my searches.


Re: Selling a Grizzly 8688 7 X 12

 

Mert, I read on a woodworking forum about a fellow who bought a new Powermatic lathe. His wife came in the shop and told him that he didn't need a new lathe and ought to sell all his woodworking tools. He said " you sound like my ex-wife".She said you never told me you were married before, his answer "I wasn't.
mike


From: MERTON B BAKER
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2013 11:31 AM
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Selling a Grizzly 8688 7 X 12

?
Whee! I have 5 in use, and another 10 or so in my "collection".

Mert

-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of aalloway
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 10:25 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Selling a Grizzly 8688 7 X 12

Thanks Mert, Yeah I know............................but the SIEG SC4 will
make (4) four lathes, my wife says that's probably enough!
allen

-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]
On Behalf Of Mert
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 3:46 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Selling a Grizzly 8688 7 X 12

Don't be in too big a hurry to sell that 7x, unless you are pressed for
room. I bought 3 7xs after I had a 12x36 for bigger stuff., & I still use
my little Uni DB after 50 years. Mert

On 02/01/13, captaalloway wrote:

I just ordered a LMS 8 1/2 X 16. I'm going to sell my 7 X 12. NO ISSUES with
the lathe, I just need a bigger machine. I live on an island in SE Alaska.
I'll crate it up and send it to Seattle. From there to wherever in ends up
will be on the buyer.
The lathe has a number of upgrades, LMS Tach, Carriage Lock and Stop, Hand
Crank on the Leadscrew, A2Z QCTP and more! PM if interested, it'll be on
eBay soon!

Dictum Factum,
Allen, On An Island

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Bill
 

Hi I just set up a new micro- mark 7x16 mini lathe I also have a 7 x10 harbor freight mini lathe the micro- mark is chattering on me even on light cuts if I use same setup on my harbor freight no chatter at all? Can someone help me I have no idea why?


Re: Selling a Grizzly 8688 7 X 12

 

At the same time, or independently?

(;-)

----- Original Message -----
From: "MERTON B BAKER" <mertbaker@...>
To: <7x12minilathe@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 7:31 AM
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Selling a Grizzly 8688 7 X 12


Whee! I have 5 in use, and another 10 or so in my "collection".

Mert



-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of aalloway
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 10:25 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Selling a Grizzly 8688 7 X 12


Thanks Mert, Yeah I know............................but the SIEG SC4 will
make (4) four lathes, my wife says that's probably enough!
allen

-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]
On Behalf Of Mert
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 3:46 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Selling a Grizzly 8688 7 X 12


Don't be in too big a hurry to sell that 7x, unless you are pressed for
room. I bought 3 7xs after I had a 12x36 for bigger stuff., & I still use
my little Uni DB after 50 years. Mert

On 02/01/13, captaalloway wrote:

I just ordered a LMS 8 1/2 X 16. I'm going to sell my 7 X 12. NO ISSUES with
the lathe, I just need a bigger machine. I live on an island in SE Alaska.
I'll crate it up and send it to Seattle. From there to wherever in ends up
will be on the buyer.
The lathe has a number of upgrades, LMS Tach, Carriage Lock and Stop, Hand
Crank on the Leadscrew, A2Z QCTP and more! PM if interested, it'll be on
eBay soon!

Dictum Factum,
Allen, On An Island



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100mm spindle source in US?

machinist1930
 

Is Amadeal the only place the 100mm spindle is available from? Just checking if there may be a US source. Seems like no, but figured I'd ask in case I missed it in my searches.


Re: Newb question about using the apron hand wheel.

 

If I need to use the top slide, I set it by installing an accurate rod in the chuck and a DTI+mag-base on the top slide. I monitor the run-out between the DTI and rod while moving the top slide back & forth, adjust the angle for least movement. Of course, the DTI contacts the side of the rod, not the top. This approach assumes that your headstock is accurately aligned with the bed, and the rod is, too. It's always good to know where the variables are in your setup.

While doing this I also discovered a regular "blip" in the top slide position of about .002". It seemed to repeat for every revolution of the feed handle. Not sure what that's about yet...at present it's a motivation to avoid using the top slide whenever possible!

Mark

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., gerry waclawiak wrote:

Hi Michael,

When I started as a raw amateur several years ago I quickly encountered the same problems and that moving the saddle is the best way and to use the topslide only for small cuts. I now generally feed with the saddle handwheel and only use the auto-feed occasionally for threading or where no precision as to distance is required. A decent engagement between the saddle rack and the gear pinion is desirable to reduce play although mine was OK

the topslide protractor is very much an expression of hope, it is so inaccurate and you cannot just use an angle square to set the topslide square to the cross-slide as the dovetails are sometimes slightly out in relation to the edges of the parts.

I set mine using trial and error to get as little taper as possible on the range of topslide movement and haven't moved the angle since.

I quickly found the lack of a saddle lock a nuisance and that although engaging the feed lever made a half passable alternative a home made lock is much superior and positive as the saddle cannot twist or rock when cutting.

I also made a small saddle stop from aluminium to clamp to the front V and it is then easy to roughly position the stop and run the carriage up to it using the hand wheel and fine tune the cut with the topslide

Gerry W
Leeds UK

To: 7x12minilathe@...
From: kwoodhands@...
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 16:57:12 -0800
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Newb question about using the apron hand wheel.


























Jeremy, unless the compound is at exactly 0 on the vernier scale you will get a taper.Very difficult to get 0 by eye.Instead don't use the compound except for tapers and when facing for depth of cut. Use the powerfeed when possible or the large handwheel that moves the carriage.The compound is not used for threading.Use a shop made saddle lock instead of the feed lever,for facing or parting.The half nut is to engage the the feed screw for threading ,not used as a lock.One other thing, get a copy of "How To Run A Lathe" by South Bend.This is a well known publication that is only $10.00 or so.The info is helpful to any home shop
machinist ,not just South Bend owners.This is a republished copy available by online bookstores.Lindsay Publications retired the company but someone will direct you to the new online store.
mike

From: cptwinderatgmaildotcom
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 2:17 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Newb question about using the apron hand wheel.























So after having my lathe a couple of years now, I finally have a shop big enough to actually use it. What little I have used it in the past, I would use the half-nut to lock the saddle and use the compound slide to move the cutter towards and away from the chuck.



Last night I was attempting to turn down the diameter of an aluminum rod. And for the life of me I could not get the compound slid setup so it didn't turn a taper. Knowing that on "big iron" you use the hand wheel on the apron to move the cutter towards and away from the chuck and remembering reading somewhere that someone left their compound setup for threading on their 7x lathe, I figured I would attempt to use the apron hand wheel as well. By the time I gave the wheel enough pressure to start it moving it would jump forward, making cuts impossible.



So the question to all of the veterans, what method of moving the cutter towards and away from the chuck are you using, compound, apron wheel, other, etc?



Thanks in advance,



Jeremy


Re: Selling a Grizzly 8688 7 X 12

MERTON B BAKER
 

Whee! I have 5 in use, and another 10 or so in my "collection".

Mert

-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of aalloway
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 10:25 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Selling a Grizzly 8688 7 X 12


Thanks Mert, Yeah I know............................but the SIEG SC4 will
make (4) four lathes, my wife says that's probably enough!
allen

-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]
On Behalf Of Mert
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 3:46 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Selling a Grizzly 8688 7 X 12


Don't be in too big a hurry to sell that 7x, unless you are pressed for
room. I bought 3 7xs after I had a 12x36 for bigger stuff., & I still use
my little Uni DB after 50 years. Mert

On 02/01/13, captaalloway wrote:

I just ordered a LMS 8 1/2 X 16. I'm going to sell my 7 X 12. NO ISSUES with
the lathe, I just need a bigger machine. I live on an island in SE Alaska.
I'll crate it up and send it to Seattle. From there to wherever in ends up
will be on the buyer.
The lathe has a number of upgrades, LMS Tach, Carriage Lock and Stop, Hand
Crank on the Leadscrew, A2Z QCTP and more! PM if interested, it'll be on
eBay soon!

Dictum Factum,
Allen, On An Island



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Re: Selling a Grizzly 8688 7 X 12

 

Thanks Mert, Yeah I know............................but the SIEG SC4 will make (4) four lathes, my wife says that's probably enough!
allen

-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Mert
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 3:46 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Selling a Grizzly 8688 7 X 12


Don't be in too big a hurry to sell that 7x, unless you are pressed for room. I bought 3 7xs after I had a 12x36 for bigger stuff., & I still use my little Uni DB after 50 years. Mert

On 02/01/13, captaalloway wrote:

I just ordered a LMS 8 1/2 X 16. I'm going to sell my 7 X 12. NO ISSUES with the lathe, I just need a bigger machine. I live on an island in SE Alaska. I'll crate it up and send it to Seattle. From there to wherever in ends up will be on the buyer.
The lathe has a number of upgrades, LMS Tach, Carriage Lock and Stop, Hand Crank on the Leadscrew, A2Z QCTP and more! PM if interested, it'll be on eBay soon!

Dictum Factum,
Allen, On An Island



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