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Re: A rather useful tool
I have a Xerox laser printer and it is the only printer I know that does not have duplex printing. I have really cheap HP printers all with duplex printing. To get duplex printing I have to manually reinsert the sheet, hopefully I get it right side up and in the correct direction. Ralph On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 3:11?PM chrisser via <chris.kucia=[email protected]> wrote: Last time I looked at an actual Xerox branded copier was in the early 90s. |
Re: A rather useful tool
Last time I looked at an actual Xerox branded copier was in the early 90s.
Have to admit, it was a much better quality machine than anything else I looked at.? And the salesgal was an unbelievably cute redhead. But it (the copier) came at a premium and my boss wasn't willing to pay it.? The copier we bought instead had to be replaced about 4 years later - I suspect the Xerox would have lasted much longer.? But I still don't know if the cost would have been justified. |
Re: A rather useful tool
On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 11:32 AM, Bruce J wrote:
Xerox could never make their mind up.Xerox was never really a copier company. ?It was a paper and toner company -- the consumables generated the vast majority of revenue and profit. ?And guess what brand of supplies went into the majority of those "competing" copiers and printers? ?The rise of office computers catalyzed by the windowing interface greatly increased the creation of paper documents, generating more revenue through paper and toner sales than Xerox ever could've made trying to compete in the computer business. ? -Les ? |
Re: A rather useful tool
On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 05:40 PM, Roy wrote:
"Crescent" is a brand name, not really a generic name for an, "adjustable wrench."Sure. ?And last time I busted my knuckles when the adjustable wrench slipped, I wiped up the blood with a kleenex, put on a couple of band-aids, and took a tylenol for the pain. ? ? -Les |
Re: A rather useful tool
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýXerox could never make their mind up.They had their very own Bell Labs division in Palo Alto Research Center, but treated it as a place to exile smart but ?non-copier-oriented people from their HQ in Rochester, like the guy who invented the laser printer¡ PARC invented : The GUI - and sold the rights to use it to Apple, then dumped their stock holdings in Apple just before the stock split and blew up in the early 80¡¯s? Laser printing - guy who invented it later went to HP, IIRC, in any case laser printers were commercialized by Canon and HP. The LAN and 10-Base-t Networking - That turned into a little company called 3-Com. ¡and more I¡¯m probably forgetting about The real ?wonder is how the heck Xerox still exists as a company. I know where I work we haven¡¯t had any actual Xerox copiers since the late 90¡¯s.?
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Bruce Johnson The less a man knows about how sausages and laws are made, the easier it is to steal his vote and give him botulism. |
Re: A rather useful tool
In the 80s when I worked at hp, companies were desperate to keep you from verbing their brands, like Xeroxing.? They wanted to be known for more.? Xerox desperately wanted to get past copiers.? ?Then some companies embraced it, like Googling, Tweeting.? It would seem valuable now for your brand to be the standard item.? ?Nice bunny trail.
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Re: A rather useful tool
Well, when I went to tech school in 68 and eventually got to the engine phase of learning, our teacher introduced himself as mr weber. Then he held up an adjustable wrench. He said that he never wanted to see one in anyone's toolbox nor used in class. Not on his engines. And a bit more. So to this day I call them weber wrenches. And to his word, when I was in another class we heard some yelling and shouting and then saw two guys running down the hall. And then a weber wrench flying down the hall after them. So yup, weber wrench it is.? George
On Monday, March 4, 2024 at 05:40:57 PM PST, Roy via groups.io <roylowenthal@...> wrote:
"Crescent" is a brand name, not really a generic name for an, "adjustable wrench." ?<??> Another useful implement of destruction for recalcitrant plumbing fittings is a, "chain wrench." It can grip stuff that even a 24" pipe wrench refuses to handle. ?<??> Welcome to the joys of home ownership ;-) Roy |
Re: A rather useful tool
When I was a kid I was taught by my 80 year old great uncle , a mountain man that one of the most important tools a guy could carry in a rig was a vise grip , the kind with the wire cutters on them . When I asked why he said " ya never know when yer gonna have to cut part of some ranchers fence to tie yer muffler or bumper back on " . Words to live by .
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Re: A rather useful tool
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI have 2 large chain wrenches , they are real popular among my
friends . Not sure how many years of hefting one of them up I got
left in me though . Mine are probably 3 & 4 feet long without
the chain . On 3/4/24 5:40 PM, Roy via groups.io
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"Crescent" is a brand name, not really a generic name for an, "adjustable wrench." |
Re: A rather useful tool
Vise Grip is not same without the name Vise Grip on side.?
Back 1970's there a lot cheap Vise Grip copies and in a shop they would not not last a week. So all shops would only buy the name brand.? In my shop the Vise Grips where zin plated over chrome plate cut on missing Vise Grips no one want zip Vise Grips. Dave? |
Re: A rather useful tool
I don't have that kind of chain wrench, but I have the kind that's a chain Vise Grip (misusing that trademark too). But what does that matter? Roy, have you ever in your whole life asked for a "facial tissue" or cut your finger and asked for an "adhesive bandage?"?? I never have either -- those are the generic names for Kleenex and Band Aids. If your product totally dominates the market, your name eventually becomes generic. So it goes. Mike Taglieri? On Mon, Mar 4, 2024, 8:40 PM Roy via <roylowenthal=[email protected]> wrote: "Crescent" is a brand name, not really a generic name for an, "adjustable wrench." |
Re: A rather useful tool
"Crescent" is a brand name, not really a generic name for an, "adjustable wrench."
?<??> Another useful implement of destruction for recalcitrant plumbing fittings is a, "chain wrench." It can grip stuff that even a 24" pipe wrench refuses to handle. ?<??> Welcome to the joys of home ownership ;-) Roy |
Re: A rather useful tool
Cool video! On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 4:53?PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
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Re: A rather useful tool
Cryogenic bits - the Norseman CN-Tech bits are the ones I am most familiar with, The bits get a nitride coating and then cooled to -300F. They become harder and stronger and less brittle. For example, I was working on a rusty steel frame that was used for hay feeding. There were lots (about 120) of 3/16" holes since there were lots of rivets to install. I tried a couple of HSS and TiN coated bits - they cut ok. I switched to the cryo bit and finished the remaining 100 hole with greater speed - holes took about 75% or less time to drill. All holes were using a hand drill with yours truly standing in awkward positions. After finishing that project, I used the same bit for 200-300 holes in steel, still going strong and no need to sharpen. On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 3:14?PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
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Re: A rather useful tool
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý??? Some real scientific info on cryogenic drill bits . ??? ??? animal On 3/4/24 2:50 PM, BuffaloJohn wrote:
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Re: Flame / Candle Engine photo and drawings.
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Viewing now. Thank you? Dave? mike allen 12:03pm? ? here's a couple https://modelengineeringwebsite.com/Poppin_flame_licker_files/flame-eater-poppin-j.r.-senft-05-02-05.pdf https://ti1ca.com/ujda618b-MOTEUR-AFCF1-VERSION-1-MOTEUR-AFCF1-VERSION-1.pdf.html animal |
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