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Re: Steering wheel adapter

 

I would have left the parting for last when you had all the boring done. Does the hole still go clear through since you could grip the part on the outside so the parting doesn't need to be so deep? Are you making the larger section of hole at what is the tailstock end so there is still a good place to hold the material as it now sits? Just after I sent my last post I realized it's possible you could pass the bolts through the mounting parts and have nuts in the space between the flanges eliminating the need for any tapping and a little less thickness for the flanges. Paul M.


Re: Steering wheel adapter

 

I didn't get a 3d printer yet so hopefully the part I make fits correctly.? He was planning to drill and tap the holes for a through bolt or potentially tap the holes himself but I may offer to do that.? I will probably remove the part to cut close to final length in the bandsaw next.? I used a parting tool to a depth of about .800 so I could get a feel for how it would do in deep cuts.? I want to try another parting blade with a slightly different grind.? I would really like to get almost to a depth of 1.7 without breaking something.


On Fri, Jan 7, 2022, 5:45 PM Chris Albertson <albertson.chris@...> wrote:
I think he has already tested the fit and function with a 3d printed?version?? ?I was actually?surprised?there were not holes in CAD model of the flange.? ? ?But there was discussion?here is a trail fit using a plastic prototype.

On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 3:44 AM paul mcclintic via <cannontandem=[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 06:35 AM, Robert Francis wrote:
The flanges are needed for bolting on the wheel and the shaft
If Robert is correct and the flanges are for bolts will you have enough room between the flanges to get the bolts in? It would seem the one end would need a pretty long bolt for how thick the flange is. Unless one flange has tapped holes you would also need to miss the bolt head of the bolts you first installed. That problem could be solved by centering one set of holes about the gap between holes at the other end. Paul M



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Redondo Beach, California


Re: Steering wheel adapter

Chris Albertson
 

I think he has already tested the fit and function with a 3d printed?version?? ?I was actually?surprised?there were not holes in CAD model of the flange.? ? ?But there was discussion?here is a trail fit using a plastic prototype.

On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 3:44 AM paul mcclintic via <cannontandem=[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 06:35 AM, Robert Francis wrote:
The flanges are needed for bolting on the wheel and the shaft
If Robert is correct and the flanges are for bolts will you have enough room between the flanges to get the bolts in? It would seem the one end would need a pretty long bolt for how thick the flange is. Unless one flange has tapped holes you would also need to miss the bolt head of the bolts you first installed. That problem could be solved by centering one set of holes about the gap between holes at the other end. Paul M



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Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach, California


Re: Steering wheel adapter

 

On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 06:35 AM, Robert Francis wrote:
The flanges are needed for bolting on the wheel and the shaft
If Robert is correct and the flanges are for bolts will you have enough room between the flanges to get the bolts in? It would seem the one end would need a pretty long bolt for how thick the flange is. Unless one flange has tapped holes you would also need to miss the bolt head of the bolts you first installed. That problem could be solved by centering one set of holes about the gap between holes at the other end. Paul M


Re: Steering wheel adapter

 

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Nice photos.

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About long stringy chips.? They should be avoided because they are dangerous.? They can grab things (including fingers) and wrap around the spinning part faster than you can react.? (Some think it is neat to see how long of a stringy chip they can make.? But some machine shops have fired people that allow such chips to develop.)

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The typical way to prevent them, if they occur, is with a “chip breaker” grind to the tool bit.? If you are using inserts, many already have them.

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Here is some discussion about chip breakers and some photos:

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Chuck K.

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From: Chad Rebuck
Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 10:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Steering wheel adapter

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All that pictures to this album as I keep moving along

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I spent a few hours working on it tonight.? I'm using my Craftsman lathe because the chuck was big enough to hold the three and a half inch diameter rod.? I bought this lathe many years ago but really have not done anything with it except make sure that it runs okay.? The belts are about to blow apart certainly before I'm done with this project :-). I'll either have to get a linked belt or go through the trouble of taking apart the headstock to replace the belt.??

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I just decided to keep cutting away the metal even though it wasn't making any chips just very long strings that were a hassle to keep pulling out. Some of the time I was able to interrupt the cut frequently and create long chips that didn't get wrapped around everything. I started with some high-speed steel bits that were included with the lathe and then I switched over to some carbide insert tooling that I use on my mini lathe to get into the corners.? Overall the carbide tooling worked pretty well and cut quickly enough. I stuck with that for the majority of cuts and will keep using it for the remainder except for when I do the parting.

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Re: Steering wheel adapter

 

All that pictures to this album as I keep moving along


I spent a few hours working on it tonight.? I'm using my Craftsman lathe because the chuck was big enough to hold the three and a half inch diameter rod.? I bought this lathe many years ago but really have not done anything with it except make sure that it runs okay.? The belts are about to blow apart certainly before I'm done with this project :-). I'll either have to get a linked belt or go through the trouble of taking apart the headstock to replace the belt.??

I just decided to keep cutting away the metal even though it wasn't making any chips just very long strings that were a hassle to keep pulling out. Some of the time I was able to interrupt the cut frequently and create long chips that didn't get wrapped around everything. I started with some high-speed steel bits that were included with the lathe and then I switched over to some carbide insert tooling that I use on my mini lathe to get into the corners.? Overall the carbide tooling worked pretty well and cut quickly enough. I stuck with that for the majority of cuts and will keep using it for the remainder except for when I do the parting.


On Wed, Jan 5, 2022, 1:42 PM Chris Albertson <albertson.chris@...> wrote:
Yes, you can turn PLA if you turn it very slowly so there is no heat generated.? I have used?a boring bar to clean the bore on printed timing pulleys I make.? The plastic cuts well

But now that more plastic parts are not printed solid.? Typically I use a 0.8 to 2.0 mm think skin and under that is a a kind of "foam" that is 50 to 80% air.? ? he "foam is a grid parted that is printed.? This saves a LOT of time and plastic.

his is the biggest difference between designing parts for metal or 3D printing.? ?Metal is solid and gains strength?by being thicker.? Plastic has strength?only in the skin.? ? So if you machine to deep you get thinner skin and the part fails.

But, yes it is 100% possible to "post-process" plastic parts on a mill or lathe.? ?I do this all the time if a plastic part has to mates with a metal part.? ?But you only remove, maybe 0.2 mm at most, hopefully?less then 0.05, basically n more then a cleaning pass

On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 11:34 AM rodedser <rod.edser@...> wrote:
Following this thread I have noticed that no-one has suggested printing oversize and turning down to fit. Can that be done?
Can you rework printed components?



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Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach, California


Re: LMS screwup is fixed

 

Well, your theory still applies. I got an ad from lms by email. Looked up mills, nothing. So yea, there are issues out there for many, lms and others, no product.
George

On Wednesday, January 5, 2022, 04:08:19 PM PST, Miket_NYC <mctaglieri@...> wrote:



I got a call from LMS today that explained what happened. I had asked my belt drive conversion to be sent to my cousins in Rochester New Hampshire to save the very high New York sales tax. But LMS sent the order to a customer in California whose order was in the same sized box and the labels got mixed up.? He returned it to them, and they resent it to New Hampshire after some delay.

But in the meantime, I'd gotten a notice of cancelation AND I got my money back, so I figured that order was gone for good and ordered another one, asking it to be sent to my home address. But my cousin told me that the one to NH arrived a couple?of days ago, and I'm visiting there next?week and can pick it up then.

LMS is sending me a gift certificate to compensate me for my "ordeal," but I told them it was more like a sit-com. So the problem is solved.? (Also the belt drive was NEVER out of stock, so my theories about supply chain problems were all wrong).

Mike Taglieri?


Re: New fix to dead motor Controller (old HF 33684, bought about 1999)

 

George

Some banks offer a service of using virtual credit cards - basically use once and discard variety. My Master card has that feature though I have not used it. I know it exists because I keep getting reminders from them.?

-Prasad



On Thursday, January 6, 2022, 05:19:26 PM EST, gcvisalia@... <gcvisalia@...> wrote:


That's why I went from our debit card to a charge card. No protection for a debit card.
George

On Wednesday, January 5, 2022, 06:55:19 PM PST, Chris Albertson <albertson.chris@...> wrote:


If you had paid with a credit card and the Chinese company refused a refund, you bank would reverse the translation?after you show then you tried to get a refund but were refused.? ? Banks are happy?to do this because they still make money on the deal.

Don't worry about?giving a CC number either, banks will refund fraud.? ?I once gave my CC to a waiter and found that he tried to buy $10,000 worth of wholesale?clothing.? I'd trust a big company more than some random waiter.? ?But in any case, I don't have to trust anyone, the bank takes care of it.

On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 4:37 PM Floyd Burkett <ucbamboorodmaker@...> wrote:
I had an issue with a seller that sent me batteries that were supposed to be 3000 mah. I received?batteries that were less than 1200 mah. I had bought 10 and aliexpress refunded me for one even after i sent proof of the discrepancy. I complained to no avail. They do not protect?the buyer like ebay does. I pay with Paypal also.

On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 6:18 PM Jacques Savard <jacquessavard@...> wrote:

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I buy and infra? red? gun? for? temps measuring

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It arrive? not the? good one? the moel A?? not the

C ?whit separted probe? and humnidity? mesure

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And the call? have to be? refurbish

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No ?goof

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On skin?

I have 109 degere F

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Jack 47 71

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Never had an issue using credit cards for the past 6 years…If you every run into issues with a supplier, AliExpress is all over it. It’s no different than buying from Ebay and you have issues… They have a protection program as well. I’ve run into 3 or four issues, but they were resolved to my satisfaction and I’ve never heard of anyone being ripped off. Money goes through Aliexpress who pays the vendors… You don’t give credit card info to a vendor.?

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Of course it’s your choice!

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R.

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On Jan 5, 2022, at 4:39 PM, Jim <jrlynch3@...> wrote:

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I'd love to order from AliExpress, but they don't take PayPal and I'm not about to give them my credit card number. There are things on AliExpress that Banggood doesn't carry, although, Banggood does take PayPal.

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Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach, California


Re: New fix to dead motor Controller (old HF 33684, bought about 1999)

 

That's why I went from our debit card to a charge card. No protection for a debit card.
George

On Wednesday, January 5, 2022, 06:55:19 PM PST, Chris Albertson <albertson.chris@...> wrote:


If you had paid with a credit card and the Chinese company refused a refund, you bank would reverse the translation?after you show then you tried to get a refund but were refused.? ? Banks are happy?to do this because they still make money on the deal.

Don't worry about?giving a CC number either, banks will refund fraud.? ?I once gave my CC to a waiter and found that he tried to buy $10,000 worth of wholesale?clothing.? I'd trust a big company more than some random waiter.? ?But in any case, I don't have to trust anyone, the bank takes care of it.

On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 4:37 PM Floyd Burkett <ucbamboorodmaker@...> wrote:
I had an issue with a seller that sent me batteries that were supposed to be 3000 mah. I received?batteries that were less than 1200 mah. I had bought 10 and aliexpress refunded me for one even after i sent proof of the discrepancy. I complained to no avail. They do not protect?the buyer like ebay does. I pay with Paypal also.

On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 6:18 PM Jacques Savard <jacquessavard@...> wrote:

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?

I buy and infra? red? gun? for? temps measuring

?

It arrive? not the? good one? the moel A?? not the

C ?whit separted probe? and humnidity? mesure

?

And the call? have to be? refurbish

?

No ?goof

?

On skin?

I have 109 degere F

?

Jack 47 71

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Never had an issue using credit cards for the past 6 years…If you every run into issues with a supplier, AliExpress is all over it. It’s no different than buying from Ebay and you have issues… They have a protection program as well. I’ve run into 3 or four issues, but they were resolved to my satisfaction and I’ve never heard of anyone being ripped off. Money goes through Aliexpress who pays the vendors… You don’t give credit card info to a vendor.?

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Of course it’s your choice!

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R.

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On Jan 5, 2022, at 4:39 PM, Jim <jrlynch3@...> wrote:

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I'd love to order from AliExpress, but they don't take PayPal and I'm not about to give them my credit card number. There are things on AliExpress that Banggood doesn't carry, although, Banggood does take PayPal.

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Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach, California


Re: O rings to replace spring tensioners in cross slide dial?

 

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No because I don't have oil proof O-rings and with my experience, they don't last long in this environment.


On 05.01.22 20:58, Ryan H via groups.io wrote:

Has anyone tried replacing the two little metal spring tensioners in the cross slide dial with a rubber O-ring or two???

I'm thinking it would be smoother to turn, less wear on the metal parts and easier to deal with when you have to remove the dial.?

Opinions?

Thanks, Ryan


Re: New fix to dead motor Controller (old HF 33684, bought about 1999)

 

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Jim, YES, they do, at least from France.

The Paypal option appeared after the first payment I did with Paypal. I seem to recall that I had to request the seller to pay through Paypal. I paid an extra fee of less than one Euro to link my Paypal account. Then, every time I bought from them, the Paypal option took precedence.

For 3 or 4 months, they have a very bad habit however: AliPay being an "intermediate client" of Paypal and priviledged with Aliexpress, the link between Paypal and AliPay is established by default after a payment is done. Unless the link is manually removed in the options menu of Paypal, it remains and no password is requested for the next order. I recently called Paypal and they said that they can't do anything by themselves, I have to contact AliPay, that of course don't reply! So don't forget to remove the link when Paypal has paid AliPay !


On 05.01.22 22:39, Jim wrote:

I'd love to order from AliExpress, but they don't take PayPal and I'm not about to give them my credit card number. There are things on AliExpress that Banggood doesn't carry, although, Banggood does take PayPal.
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Re: Is Something Strange Going On at Little Machine Shop?

 

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Ralphie,

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That can also be caused by “shrinkage”, where some miscreant has simply stolen the part.? The computer doesn’t know this and says the part is still on the shelf.?

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Jerry F.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ralph Lehotsky
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2022 4:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Is Something Strange Going On at Little Machine Shop?

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How many times have you gone to a store, after calling if they had a part - and they said "yes, we have 2 in stock.

Then you go there and they can't find them, even though their inventory says they have 2, only to find that they were sold but the entry into their computer mistakenly was the wrong part number.

Inventory control is not perfect..!!

ralphie


Re: O rings to replace spring tensioners in cross slide dial?

 

Thanks for the link to the chart.? I'm defiantly going to save that.?

I think I'm going to give the O-rings a shot.? It sounds like it works for some and not for others so I'm going to hope I'm in the "it works" camp.

I'm not a fan of the set screw sticking out either but using a wrench all the time to adjust the compound slide one is a bit pain so that's going to get the thumb screw.? I guess I could remove the screw and cut a grove to put a ring in though... that's something to think about too.? I'm doing a thrust bearing mod on the screw now to take the backlash out now though so it would be easier to do all at once.

Thanks!

Ryan




-----Original Message-----
From: Clark Panaccione via groups.io <threesixesinarow@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, Jan 5, 2022 8:58 pm
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] O rings to replace spring tensioners in cross slide dial?

The compound slide for my antique Delta wood lathe uses pair of o-rings for the adjustable dials. They work great, but aren’t quite as compact as the mini lathe springs. I’ve copied those from things like bandsaw blades.

Clark

On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 11:58 AM, Ryan H wrote:
Has anyone tried replacing the two little metal spring tensioners in the cross slide dial with a rubber O-ring or two???

I'm thinking it would be smoother to turn, less wear on the metal parts and easier to deal with when you have to remove the dial.?

Opinions?

Thanks, Ryan


Re: New fix to dead motor Controller (old HF 33684, bought about 1999)

Chris Albertson
 

If you had paid with a credit card and the Chinese company refused a refund, you bank would reverse the translation?after you show then you tried to get a refund but were refused.? ? Banks are happy?to do this because they still make money on the deal.

Don't worry about?giving a CC number either, banks will refund fraud.? ?I once gave my CC to a waiter and found that he tried to buy $10,000 worth of wholesale?clothing.? I'd trust a big company more than some random waiter.? ?But in any case, I don't have to trust anyone, the bank takes care of it.

On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 4:37 PM Floyd Burkett <ucbamboorodmaker@...> wrote:
I had an issue with a seller that sent me batteries that were supposed to be 3000 mah. I received?batteries that were less than 1200 mah. I had bought 10 and aliexpress refunded me for one even after i sent proof of the discrepancy. I complained to no avail. They do not protect?the buyer like ebay does. I pay with Paypal also.

On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 6:18 PM Jacques Savard <jacquessavard@...> wrote:

?

?

I buy and infra? red? gun? for? temps measuring

?

It arrive? not the? good one? the moel A?? not the

C ?whit separted probe? and humnidity? mesure

?

And the call? have to be? refurbish

?

No ?goof

?

On skin?

I have 109 degere F

?

Jack 47 71

?

Never had an issue using credit cards for the past 6 years…If you every run into issues with a supplier, AliExpress is all over it. It’s no different than buying from Ebay and you have issues… They have a protection program as well. I’ve run into 3 or four issues, but they were resolved to my satisfaction and I’ve never heard of anyone being ripped off. Money goes through Aliexpress who pays the vendors… You don’t give credit card info to a vendor.?

?

Of course it’s your choice!

?

?

R.

?

On Jan 5, 2022, at 4:39 PM, Jim <jrlynch3@...> wrote:

?

I'd love to order from AliExpress, but they don't take PayPal and I'm not about to give them my credit card number. There are things on AliExpress that Banggood doesn't carry, although, Banggood does take PayPal.

?



--

Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach, California


Re: O rings to replace spring tensioners in cross slide dial?

 

The compound slide for my antique Delta wood lathe uses pair of o-rings for the adjustable dials. They work great, but aren’t quite as compact as the mini lathe springs. I’ve copied those from things like bandsaw blades.

Clark


On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 11:58 AM, Ryan H wrote:
Has anyone tried replacing the two little metal spring tensioners in the cross slide dial with a rubber O-ring or two???

I'm thinking it would be smoother to turn, less wear on the metal parts and easier to deal with when you have to remove the dial.?

Opinions?

Thanks, Ryan
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Re: O rings to replace spring tensioners in cross slide dial?

 

Ryan,
I did a modification to my 7x16 minilathe a few years ago extending the cross slide travel. As a part of this mod I purchased a new satin chrome cross slide micrometer dial from LMS. I bored a counterbore into the backside of the dial to accept a 1/16” cross section O-ring and sized it for a friction fit. I assembled it with a bit of white Lubriplate grease. It has been working out fine ever since final assembly.
I considered using a knurled screw and I am sure that would work well also, but didn’t want the knob projecting from the side.
The 9” South Bend lathe used a slotted set screw that was flush and did not project although it required a small screw driver and was not convenient to use.


Re: O rings to replace spring tensioners in cross slide dial?

 

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On 1/5/2022 2:34 PM, Ryan H via groups.io wrote:

My local hardware store sells O-rings by number but I've never been able to find out what the numbers correspond to size wise but they let me play around until I find what I want. Maybe there's something that'll work.?

My compound uses a set screw. One of these days I want to make a brass thumb screw to replace the allen head set but I haven't gotten around to it yet.?

Ryan?
On Jan 5, 2022, 5:12 PM -0500, Ellis Cory via groups.io <ellis103@...>, wrote:

I agree. I id that with the top slide many years ago and no problems.

Best wishes and stay safe.

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Yes, I tried that. I found that with the O-rings the dial would move on its own if it chattered a bit.

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The best option is to drill and thread the dial for a little thumb screw to lock the dial.

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Michael - California, USA


Re: O rings to replace spring tensioners in cross slide dial?

 

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??? ??? Maybe use a Quad-ring , their a bit more ridged

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On 1/5/2022 1:56 PM, Michael Jablonski wrote:

Yes, I tried that. I found that with the O-rings the dial would move on its own if it chattered a bit.

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The best option is to drill and thread the dial for a little thumb screw to lock the dial.

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Michael - California, USA

Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16

LMS 3990 Hi-Torque Mill with power feed

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ryan H via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 11:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [7x12MiniLathe] O rings to replace spring tensioners in cross slide dial?

?

Has anyone tried replacing the two little metal spring tensioners in the cross slide dial with a rubber O-ring or two???

I'm thinking it would be smoother to turn, less wear on the metal parts and easier to deal with when you have to remove the dial.?

Opinions?

Thanks, Ryan


Re: New fix to dead motor Controller (old HF 33684, bought about 1999)

 

I had an issue with a seller that sent me batteries that were supposed to be 3000 mah. I received?batteries that were less than 1200 mah. I had bought 10 and aliexpress refunded me for one even after i sent proof of the discrepancy. I complained to no avail. They do not protect?the buyer like ebay does. I pay with Paypal also.


On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 6:18 PM Jacques Savard <jacquessavard@...> wrote:

?

?

I buy and infra? red? gun? for? temps measuring

?

It arrive? not the? good one? the moel A?? not the

C ?whit separted probe? and humnidity? mesure

?

And the call? have to be? refurbish

?

No ?goof

?

On skin?

I have 109 degere F

?

Jack 47 71

?

Never had an issue using credit cards for the past 6 years…If you every run into issues with a supplier, AliExpress is all over it. It’s no different than buying from Ebay and you have issues… They have a protection program as well. I’ve run into 3 or four issues, but they were resolved to my satisfaction and I’ve never heard of anyone being ripped off. Money goes through Aliexpress who pays the vendors… You don’t give credit card info to a vendor.?

?

Of course it’s your choice!

?

?

R.

?

On Jan 5, 2022, at 4:39 PM, Jim <jrlynch3@...> wrote:

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I'd love to order from AliExpress, but they don't take PayPal and I'm not about to give them my credit card number. There are things on AliExpress that Banggood doesn't carry, although, Banggood does take PayPal.

?


Re: New fix to dead motor Controller (old HF 33684, bought about 1999)

 

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?

?

I buy and infra? red? gun? for? temps measuring

?

It arrive? not the? good one? the moel A?? not the

C ?whit separted probe? and humnidity? mesure

?

And the call? have to be? refurbish

?

No ?goof

?

On skin?

I have 109 degere F

?

Jack 47 71

?

Never had an issue using credit cards for the past 6 years…If you every run into issues with a supplier, AliExpress is all over it. It’s no different than buying from Ebay and you have issues… They have a protection program as well. I’ve run into 3 or four issues, but they were resolved to my satisfaction and I’ve never heard of anyone being ripped off. Money goes through Aliexpress who pays the vendors… You don’t give credit card info to a vendor.?

?

Of course it’s your choice!

?

?

R.

?

On Jan 5, 2022, at 4:39 PM, Jim <jrlynch3@...> wrote:

?

I'd love to order from AliExpress, but they don't take PayPal and I'm not about to give them my credit card number. There are things on AliExpress that Banggood doesn't carry, although, Banggood does take PayPal.

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