Re: seperating workpiece cyno
Too right! I had a gallon (1.25 US gallons) can of acetone, nearly full. It?lurked?untouched in the garage for 30 years. When I eventually needed some, it was empty. The top surface?had gone rusty (condensation, probably) and there were one or two pinholes through it.
?
Andy
To: 7x12minilathe@... From: maschwiebert@... Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 09:23:16 -0800 Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] seperating workpiece cyno ?
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Make sure you put the acetone lid back on TIGHT!
I went to get a can down that was only two months old,and it was empty.
The lid tightened up with about a 1/16 of a turn.
Hard to believe that most of a quart evaporated out of that cap.
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--- On Thu, 2/7/13, Colin Sharpe wrote:
From: Colin Sharpe
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] seperating workpiece cyno
To: "7x12minilathe@..." <7x12minilathe@...>
Date: Thursday, February 7, 2013, 11:56 AM
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Hardware stores sell acetone in quart cans quite cheaply.? One can should last a lifetime of CA removal and removal of your wife's nail polish.
Colin.
From: SirJohnOfYork
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2013, 0:53
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] seperating workpiece cyno
?
?Borrow somebody's Nail Polish Remover. Make sure it is acetone based. Given a little soak time it'll turn the glue into goo, and separation & clean up gets easy after that. My first experience with Super Glue () for work holding, was making two headed (and two tailed) coins. Held a lot better than I expected. If I were to offer advice to anyone it would be to simply follow the directions - using too much glue is as bad or worse than not using enough. A small drop goes a long way...!
?My wife hit the local Dollar Store and picked up a couple bottles of acetone based Nail Polish Remover for, you guessed it, $1 each. Will probably last for quite awhile yet, since I can use the bottle cap to soak the coins in, so it doesn't take very much. (I glued coins to the end of a short length of a freshly faced steel bar, then used a dial indicator to center the coin in my 4-jaw chuck). Afterwards I just stood the bar vertically on the coin end which was sitting in a cap full of nail polish remover, and let it soak for awhile...
?John Z.
On 2/6/2013 10:23 PM, zl1atb wrote:
?
I saw a few weeks back guys using cyno superglue to attach small pieces to dress them up,someone was turning both sides of a narrow washer, I cant remember how to seperate the turned piece.
I glued some 2 inch ali bar it held good , now ?its still held good .
I tried hitting it with a plastic mallet , wondering If I should soak it, hoping the cyno will break down.
Don
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Re: seperating workpiece cyno
Make sure you put the acetone lid back on TIGHT!
I went to get a can down that was only two months old,and it was empty.
The lid tightened up with about a 1/16 of a turn.
Hard to believe that most of a quart evaporated out of that cap.
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--- On Thu, 2/7/13, Colin Sharpe wrote:
From: Colin Sharpe
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] seperating workpiece cyno
To: "7x12minilathe@..." <7x12minilathe@...>
Date: Thursday, February 7, 2013, 11:56 AM
?
Hardware stores sell acetone in quart cans quite cheaply.? One can should last a lifetime of CA removal and removal of your wife's nail polish.
Colin.
From: SirJohnOfYork
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2013, 0:53
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] seperating workpiece cyno
?
?Borrow somebody's Nail Polish Remover. Make sure it is acetone based. Given a little soak time it'll turn the glue into goo, and separation & clean up gets easy after that. My first experience with Super Glue () for work holding, was making two headed (and two tailed) coins. Held a lot better than I expected. If I were to offer advice to anyone it would be to simply follow the directions - using too much glue is as bad or worse than not using enough. A small drop goes a long way...!
?My wife hit the local Dollar Store and picked up a couple bottles of acetone based Nail Polish Remover for, you guessed it, $1 each. Will probably last for quite awhile yet, since I can use the bottle cap to soak the coins in, so it doesn't take very much. (I glued coins to the end of a short length of a freshly
faced steel bar, then used a dial indicator to center the coin in my 4-jaw chuck). Afterwards I just stood the bar vertically on the coin end which was sitting in a cap full of nail polish remover, and let it soak for awhile...
?John Z.
On 2/6/2013 10:23 PM, zl1atb wrote:
?
I saw a few weeks back guys using cyno superglue to attach small pieces to dress them up,someone was turning both sides of a narrow washer, I cant remember how to seperate the turned piece.
I glued some 2 inch ali bar it held good , now ?its still held good .
I tried hitting it with a plastic mallet , wondering If I should soak it, hoping the cyno will break down.
Don
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From: WAM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] If you ever need to make a spindle workstop...
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Date: Thursday, February 7, 2013, 4:29 PM
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... bicycle handle bar nuts fit the 7x bore.
I just tapped one to fit some 1/8" threaded tube used for lamps
(straight 1/8" x 27 pipe), bored the other out with some slop to allow
it to move up the wedge.
Welded a 1/4 x20 coupler to one end and used a pipe nut (modded to
straight 1/8" x27 thread) as a jam nut. The plastic 1/4x20 wingnut sets
the depth stop. The aluminum spacer gets it thru the change gear door
(I have a hinged door on mine with a captive thumb screw so it's a bit
longer..)
pics:
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Mike wrote.......Now you are really confusing
me.......
?
Yes and me too. I was?taught many years ago at
college and confirmed later by a manufacturer, that all axis relate to the
workholder. Consider the lathe, the spindle axis holds the work. Now a vertical
milling machine, the spindle holds the cutting tool, but so does a horizontal
milling machine and the spindle is parallel to the bed!? Never mind slant
bed machines, multi-axis machining centres etc. So the Z axis move towards
and/or away from the workholder. The X & Y axis move across the workholder
at right angles to each other. Not all 3 need to be used eg centre lathe and
some machines have 4 or more axis eg multi-spindle machining centres. However,
as we are not all professional machining companies, we don't need to get our
knickers in a twist over it.
Cheers.
???????
Ellis
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Mike,
My error! I meant "z axis".
Thanks for the correction.
Dick
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Hi Dick,
Now you are really confusing me. In message 69578 you said the on a lathe the Z axis was the long axis parallel to the lathe bed and also the spindle axis.
Now you tell me that the spindle axis determine the x axis.
Which is correct.
Mike
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Dick" wrote:
Ellis,
It is not the work holding arrangement but the "main spindle axis" which determines the x axis.
Dick
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Ellis Cory" wrote:
Warren wrote........Tell me if I should change my thinking......
No, you are correct for a milling machine. The problem comes with so many layouts of modern CNC maching centres. That is why the workholding arrangement was chosen as the point of reference.
Cheers.
Ellis
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Hey guys I have an 2002 HF 7 by 10 that I was thinking of getting the LMS 14 in. bed and doing all the mods you can do with it, BUT giveing all the costs that will come up with it, would I be better off leaveing it as is and getting a 9 by 16 I want to be able to do finer work then old bettsie does altho its not bad ,the limits kinds put well a limit on you and now that I have lots of time (hope I do) I want more room to play thanks ED
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Re: Real Bull 7x14 lathe questions?
I've been using my HF 7x10 for nearly25 years. It is now fitted with a 3C
collet closer I made, and I use if for stuff that has to stay concentric,
even though taken out of the spindle & replaced when making different cuts.
True, it lacks torque at low speeds, but I never use it at low speeds, as it
shines best with small diameter work, anyway. If I had to turn a 6.5"
flywheel, I'd use the crank. Or the 12x36.
Mert
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-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Robert Furmanak
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:00 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Re: Real Bull 7x14 lathe questions?
I agree with your advice. I started out with a cheap Harbor Freight
(Seig) 7x10 , and upgraded it as I increased my skills and interest in
machining. For small diameter work, they are not bad machines, and they can
be a real bargain if you are within driving distance of a Harbor Freight
store, and you have a 20% off coupon. They are store stock items, so you
can actually see it, rather than buying sight unseen.
Currently, the HF 7x10 is on sale for $499. A 20% off coupon brings that
down to $399. If you pick it up, shipping costs are zero. Even though it
is a small lathe, that is an attractive offer for the budget minded who is
otherwise looking at around $900 for an LMS, Micro Mark, or Big Dog lathe
including shipping.
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]
On Behalf Of gerry waclawiak
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:15 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Re: Real Bull 7x14 lathe questions?
Bob and others looking to buy a 7x lathe
I would not just write off any of the older lathes for the "new kid on the
block" the new top of the line Sieg type with new motor and control
technology,as sold by LMS and others. Whilst it is true that they are the
best so far and that power is more than adequate at all speeds they are
otherwise little different in design, fit and finish to all the other models
that went before them and that means weaknesses as well as strengths.
As they are sold at a premium price and have limited availability this
will undoubtedly mean a hefty shipping bill for many prospective purchasers
compared with a "lesser" model that can be bought at discount locally and
collected it might well be that they work out a great deal more expensive.
When the 7x mini-lathes first appeared the motor power of 250-300W
sometimes something of an issue, especially with large diameter parts at low
speeds, but the motors have steadily increased in power over the years and
seem to range from 350-550 depending on the vendor and model, still not as
good as the new motor Sieg (500W but higher torque) but a definite
improvement and likely to satisfy most people.
Here in the UK the premium for the new Sieg is the equivalent of $300 and
I have read it can run to that in he US too, depending on offers etc. If you
want the extra power and money is not an issue then the Sieg is the best of
the crop, but for those on a budget, who are a little less demanding or are
not averse to taking things a little slower then one of the older could make
a very good purchase and leave you change for extra tooling and accessories.
There is also of course the opportunity to look at the used market as well.
Gerry W
Leeds UK
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> To: 7x12minilathe@...
> From: clevinski@...
> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:47:27 +0000
> Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Real Bull 7x14 lathe questions?
>
>
> < br>> Bob,
>
> I've had a Real Bull 7x14 with gear box since May, and I love it. It
> did come with quite an accessory package, including a 4" 3-jaw chuck,
> (which is standard if you buy it from Big Dog), steady and follower
> rests, metal main transmission gears (not all of them), tails stock
> drill chuck, live center and dead center. I really liked the
> accessories (though I have not yet used the follower rest) and I
> especially liked the 4" chuck and metal gears.
>
> Just my two cents...
>
> Charlie
>
> --- In
> 7x12minilathe@... ,
> "bob_guenthner" wrote:
> >
> >
> > Had a response from one of the eBay sellers that the Real Bull lathe
> does have a high/low gear box. It's still a possibility depending on
> what a follower ans steady rest would cost me.
> >
> > Bob
> > --- In
> 7x12minilathe@... ,
> "bob_guenthner" wrote:
> > >
> > > I would like a larger lathe, but space and money are the limiting
> factor. I do have access at work to a South Bend, I don't know the
> exact size, but it's probably a 12 x 60 and an older South Bend that's
> about 36 inches long. The problem is I work for the federal government
> and most people at work wouldn't like it too much if I had a rifle
> barrel or action chucked up in the lathe. I can do most of the work I
> need to do on a 7x14, but could possibly sneak in some time on the work
> lathes if I had to on a weekend.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > --- In
> 7x12minilathe@... ,
> "Tony Smith" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ; > Not sure of the price range you guys are looking at,but at
> 1150.00 my 10x22
> > > > > from grizzly is several times the lathe that the 7x12 it
> replaced. I lost the 7x12 to
> > > > > thieves last winter, and got the 10x22 as I kept seeing the 7x14
> for around
> > > > > $800+ with a bit less than what the 10x22 came with. The wife
> wasn't so happy
> > > > > with the extra cost, but now that i'm getting used to the bigger
> I'm glad I got it. It
> > > > > comes with 5" 3 jaw, 6" four jaw chuck, face plate, steady rest,
> follow rest, mt4
> > > > > center, mt3 center, plus a little tool box to hold the tools in
> till you get a bench
> > > > > made. I still miss the 7x12 tho, it was my first lathe and I
> had lots of fun learning
> > > > > with it.
> > > > > Dennis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It is indeed several times the lathe:
>
;
>
010x22%20LATHE/100_4028_edited.jpg
> > > >
> > > > (that's a 7x10, but close enough).
> > > >
> > > > Tony
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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Yes,you are the one,I could not?remember?your last name,my yahoo mail went on the blink and i emptied all my e mails to solve the memory problem,which it did not,the problem was in my security files. Nice to see you on the postings again Charlie take care John L Spain.
From: CLevinski
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 12:38 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Charlie?
?
Hello, John,
Assuming I'm the Charlie you're referring to (a little presumptuous on
my part since you made such nice comments!), I'm still here. I spent
virtually the entire month of January traveling on business, including
my weekends, and wasn't even able to get downstairs to my shop until
this week. Hopefully that won't happen again. As a result, I've been
reading the digest emails but not posting.
Thanks for thinking of me; everything is OK and I should be
participating more now that the January travel craziness is over!
Best regards,
Charlie
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., John Lindo wrote:
>
> Does anybody know what's happened to Charlie?
> Hope you are OK if you are reading this.
> You are always so full of enthusiasm and politeness.
> Are you there? You are in our thoughts
>
> Regards
> The group.
> J L
>
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Hi Dick,
Now you are really confusing me. In message 69578 you said the on a lathe the Z axis was the long axis parallel to the lathe bed and also the spindle axis.
Now you tell me that the spindle axis determine the x axis.
Which is correct.
Mike
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--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Dick" wrote:
Ellis,
It is not the work holding arrangement but the "main spindle axis" which determines the x axis.
Dick
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Ellis Cory" wrote:
Warren wrote........Tell me if I should change my thinking......
No, you are correct for a milling machine. The problem comes with so many layouts of modern CNC maching centres. That is why the workholding arrangement was chosen as the point of reference.
Cheers.
Ellis
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Re: Real Bull 7x14 lathe questions?
I agree with your advice.? I started out with a cheap Harbor Freight (Seig) 7x10 , and upgraded it as I increased my skills and interest in machining. ?For small diameter work, they are not bad machines, and they can be a real bargain if you are within driving distance of a Harbor Freight store, and you have a 20% off coupon.? They are store stock items, so you can actually see it, rather than buying sight unseen.? Currently, the HF 7x10 is on sale for $499.? A 20% off coupon brings that down to $399.? If you pick it up, shipping costs are zero.? Even though it is a small lathe, that is an attractive offer for the budget minded who is otherwise looking at around $900 for an LMS, Micro Mark, or Big Dog lathe including shipping. ?
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From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of gerry waclawiak
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:15 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Re: Real Bull 7x14 lathe questions?? ? Bob and others looking to buy a 7x lathe
I would not just write off any of the older lathes for the "new kid on the block" the new top of the line Sieg type with new motor and control technology,as sold by LMS and others. Whilst it is true that they are the best so far and that power is more than adequate at all speeds they are otherwise little different in design, fit and finish to all the other models that went before them and that means weaknesses as well as strengths.
As they are sold at a premium price and have limited availability this will undoubtedly mean a hefty shipping bill for many prospective purchasers compared with a "lesser" model that can be bought at discount locally and collected it might well be that they work out a great deal more expensive.
When the 7x mini-lathes first appeared the motor power of 250-300W sometimes something of an issue, especially with large diameter parts at low speeds, but the motors have steadily increased in power over the years and seem to range from 350-550 depending on the vendor and model, still not as good as the new motor Sieg (500W but higher torque) but a definite improvement and likely to satisfy most people.
Here in the UK the premium for the new Sieg is the equivalent of $300 and I have read it can run to that in he US too, depending on offers etc. If you want the extra power and money is not an issue then the Sieg is the best of the crop, but for those on a budget, who are a little less demanding or are not averse to taking things a little slower then one of the older could make a very good purchase and leave you change for extra tooling and accessories. There is also of course the opportunity to look at the used market as well.
Gerry W
Leeds UK
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> To: 7x12minilathe@...
> From: clevinski@...
> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:47:27 +0000
> Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Real Bull 7x14 lathe questions?
>
>
> < br>> Bob,
>
> I've had a Real Bull 7x14 with gear box since May, and I love it. It
> did come with quite an accessory package, including a 4" 3-jaw chuck,
> (which is standard if you buy it from Big Dog), steady and follower
> rests, metal main transmission gears (not all of them), tails stock
> drill chuck, live center and dead center. I really liked the
> accessories (though I have not yet used the follower rest) and I
> especially liked the 4" chuck and metal gears.
>
> Just my two cents...
>
> Charlie
>
> --- In
> 7x12minilathe@...>,
> "bob_guenthner" wrote:
> >
> >
> > Had a response from one of the eBay sellers that the Real Bull lathe
> does have a high/low gear box. It's still a possibility depending on
> what a follower ans steady rest would cost me.
> >
> > Bob
> > --- In
> 7x12minilathe@...>,
> "bob_guenthner" wrote:
> > >
> > > I would like a larger lathe, but space and money are the limiting
> factor. I do have access at work to a South Bend, I don't know the
> exact size, but it's probably a 12 x 60 and an older South Bend that's
> about 36 inches long. The problem is I work for the federal government
> and most people at work wouldn't like it too much if I had a rifle
> barrel or action chucked up in the lathe. I can do most of the work I
> need to do on a 7x14, but could possibly sneak in some time on the work
> lathes if I had to on a weekend.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > --- In
> 7x12minilathe@...>,
> "Tony Smith" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ; > Not sure of the price range you guys are looking at,but at
> 1150.00 my 10x22
> > > > > from grizzly is several times the lathe that the 7x12 it
> replaced. I lost the 7x12 to
> > > > > thieves last winter, and got the 10x22 as I kept seeing the 7x14
> for around
> > > > > $800+ with a bit less than what the 10x22 came with. The wife
> wasn't so happy
> > > > > with the extra cost, but now that i'm getting used to the bigger
> I'm glad I got it. It
> > > > > comes with 5" 3 jaw, 6" four jaw chuck, face plate, steady rest,
> follow rest, mt4
> > > > > center, mt3 center, plus a little tool box to hold the tools in
> till you get a bench
> > > > > made. I still miss the 7x12 tho, it was my first lathe and I
> had lots of fun learning
> > > > > with it.
> > > > > Dennis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It is indeed several times the lathe:
>
> 010x22%20LATHE/100_4028_edited.jpg<>
> > > >
> > > > (that's a 7x10, but close enough).
> > > >
> > > > Tony
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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Ellis,
It is not the work holding arrangement but the "main spindle axis" which determines the x axis.
Dick
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--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Ellis Cory" wrote:
Warren wrote........Tell me if I should change my thinking......
No, you are correct for a milling machine. The problem comes with so many layouts of modern CNC maching centres. That is why the workholding arrangement was chosen as the point of reference.
Cheers.
Ellis
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Hi Charlie,
Well if it was you that John L meant then the comments seem to be pretty well deserved over your past history here. Nice to have you back.
Gerry W
Leeds UK________________________________
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From: clevinski@...
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:38:21 +0000
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Charlie?
Hello, John,
Assuming I'm the Charlie you're referring to (a little presumptuous on
my part since you made such nice comments!), I'm still here. I spent
virtually the entire month of January traveling on business, including
my weekends, and wasn't even able to get downstairs to my shop until
this week. Hopefully that won't happen again. As a result, I've been
reading the digest emails but not posting.
Thanks for thinking of me; everything is OK and I should be
participating more now that the January travel craziness is over!
Best regards,
Charlie
--- In
7x12minilathe@...<mailto:7x12minilathe%40yahoogroups.com>,
John Lindo wrote:
>
> Does anybody know what's happened to Charlie?
> Hope you are OK if you are reading this.
> You are always so full of enthusiasm and politeness.
> Are you there? You are in our thoughts
>
> Regards
> The group.
> J L
>
|
Re: Real Bull 7x14 lathe questions?
Bob and others looking to buy a 7x lathe
I would not just write off any of the older lathes for the "new kid on the block" the new top of the line Sieg type with new motor and control technology,as sold by LMS and others. Whilst it is true that they are the best so far and that power is more than adequate at all speeds they are otherwise little different in design, fit and finish to all the other models that went before them and that means weaknesses as well as strengths.
As they are sold at a premium price and have limited availability this will undoubtedly mean a hefty shipping bill for many prospective purchasers compared with a "lesser" model that can be bought at discount locally and collected it might well be that they work out a great deal more expensive.
When the 7x mini-lathes first appeared the motor power of 250-300W sometimes something of an issue, especially with large diameter parts at low speeds, but the motors have steadily increased in power over the years and seem to range from 350-550 depending on the vendor and model, still not as good as the new motor Sieg (500W but higher torque) but a definite improvement and likely to satisfy most people.
Here in the UK the premium for the new Sieg is the equivalent of $300 and I have read it can run to that in he US too, depending on offers etc. If you want the extra power and money is not an issue then the Sieg is the best of the crop, but for those on a budget, who are a little less demanding or are not averse to taking things a little slower then one of the older could make a very good purchase and leave you change for extra tooling and accessories. There is also of course the opportunity to look at the used market as well.
Gerry W
Leeds UK
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> To: 7x12minilathe@...
> From: clevinski@...
> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:47:27 +0000
> Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Real Bull 7x14 lathe questions?
>
>
>
> Bob,
>
> I've had a Real Bull 7x14 with gear box since May, and I love it. It
> did come with quite an accessory package, including a 4" 3-jaw chuck,
> (which is standard if you buy it from Big Dog), steady and follower
> rests, metal main transmission gears (not all of them), tails stock
> drill chuck, live center and dead center. I really liked the
> accessories (though I have not yet used the follower rest) and I
> especially liked the 4" chuck and metal gears.
>
> Just my two cents...
>
> Charlie
>
> --- In
> 7x12minilathe@...,
> "bob_guenthner" wrote:
> >
> >
> > Had a response from one of the eBay sellers that the Real Bull lathe
> does have a high/low gear box. It's still a possibility depending on
> what a follower ans steady rest would cost me.
> >
> > Bob
> > --- In
> 7x12minilathe@...,
> "bob_guenthner" wrote:
> > >
> > > I would like a larger lathe, but space and money are the limiting
> factor. I do have access at work to a South Bend, I don't know the
> exact size, but it's probably a 12 x 60 and an older South Bend that's
> about 36 inches long. The problem is I work for the federal government
> and most people at work wouldn't like it too much if I had a rifle
> barrel or action chucked up in the lathe. I can do most of the work I
> need to do on a 7x14, but could possibly sneak in some time on the work
> lathes if I had to on a weekend.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > --- In
> 7x12minilathe@...,
> "Tony Smith" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Not sure of the price range you guys are looking at,but at
> 1150.00 my 10x22
> > > > > from grizzly is several times the lathe that the 7x12 it
> replaced. I lost the 7x12 to
> > > > > thieves last winter, and got the 10x22 as I kept seeing the 7x14
> for around
> > > > > $800+ with a bit less than what the 10x22 came with. The wife
> wasn't so happy
> > > > > with the extra cost, but now that i'm getting used to the bigger
> I'm glad I got it. It
> > > > > comes with 5" 3 jaw, 6" four jaw chuck, face plate, steady rest,
> follow rest, mt4
> > > > > center, mt3 center, plus a little tool box to hold the tools in
> till you get a bench
> > > > > made. I still miss the 7x12 tho, it was my first lathe and I
> had lots of fun learning
> > > > > with it.
> > > > > Dennis
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> > > > It is indeed several times the lathe:
> http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/CreviceReamer/GRIZZLY%20G0602%2\
> 010x22%20LATHE/100_4028_edited.jpg
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> > > > (that's a 7x10, but close enough).
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> > > > Tony
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Warren wrote........Tell me if I should change my
thinking......
?
No, you are correct for a milling machine. The
problem comes with so many layouts of modern CNC maching centres. That is why
the workholding arrangement was chosen as the point of reference.
Cheers.
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Ellis
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Re: Real Bull 7x14 lathe questions?
Bob, I've had a Real Bull 7x14 with gear box since May, and I love it. It did come with quite an accessory package, including a 4" 3-jaw chuck, (which is standard if you buy it from Big Dog), steady and follower rests, metal main transmission gears (not all of them), tails stock drill chuck, live center and dead center. I really liked the accessories (though I have not yet used the follower rest) and I especially liked the 4" chuck and metal gears. Just my two cents... Charlie --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "bob_guenthner" wrote:
Had a response from one of the eBay sellers that the Real Bull lathe
does have a high/low gear box. It's still a possibility depending on what a follower ans steady rest would cost me.
Bob
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "bob_guenthner" wrote:
I would like a larger lathe, but space and money are the limiting
factor. I do have access at work to a South Bend, I don't know the exact size, but it's probably a 12 x 60 and an older South Bend that's about 36 inches long. The problem is I work for the federal government and most people at work wouldn't like it too much if I had a rifle barrel or action chucked up in the lathe. I can do most of the work I need to do on a 7x14, but could possibly sneak in some time on the work lathes if I had to on a weekend.
Bob
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Tony Smith" wrote:
Not sure of the price range you guys are looking at,but at
1150.00 my 10x22 from grizzly is several times the lathe that the 7x12 it
replaced. I lost the 7x12 to thieves last winter, and got the 10x22 as I kept seeing the 7x14
for around $800+ with a bit less than what the 10x22 came with. The wife
wasn't so happy with the extra cost, but now that i'm getting used to the bigger
I'm glad I got it. It comes with 5" 3 jaw, 6" four jaw chuck, face plate, steady rest,
follow rest, mt4 center, mt3 center, plus a little tool box to hold the tools in
till you get a bench made. I still miss the 7x12 tho, it was my first lathe and I
had lots of fun learning with it.
Dennis
It is indeed several times the lathe:
; 010x22%20LATHE/100_4028_edited.jpg
(that's a 7x10, but close enough).
Tony
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Hello, John,
Assuming I'm the Charlie you're referring to (a little presumptuous on
my part since you made such nice comments!), I'm still here. I spent
virtually the entire month of January traveling on business, including
my weekends, and wasn't even able to get downstairs to my shop until
this week. Hopefully that won't happen again. As a result, I've been
reading the digest emails but not posting.
Thanks for thinking of me; everything is OK and I should be
participating more now that the January travel craziness is over!
Best regards,
Charlie
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--- In 7x12minilathe@..., John Lindo wrote:
Does anybody know what's happened to Charlie?
Hope you are OK if you are reading this.
You are always so full of enthusiasm and politeness.
Are you there? You are in our thoughts
Regards
The group.
J L
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Well it seems that all this time I've had it wrong.? Fortunately, I've never discussed this with anyone so it's my secret.? How it came to pass I'm not sure but my X Y&Z has always been to me that X is left right, Y is front to back (milling machine) and Z is vertical.? It seemed to make sense to me so I've adapted this.? Not being a math genius or a CAD operator or working with anyone else equipment? or drawings I don't see any problem.? I have seen the "follow the thumb" rule but that has always been associated with electricity.? Tell me if I should change my thinking. Warren
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Thank you! I haven't had a chance to get back to this problem; but from the links and other reading, I'm on the right track now.
Thanks again,
Jeremy
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Re: Real Bull 7x14 lathe questions?
Had a response from one of the eBay sellers that the Real Bull lathe does have a high/low gear box. It's still a possibility depending on what a follower ans steady rest would cost me.
Bob
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--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "bob_guenthner" wrote:
I would like a larger lathe, but space and money are the limiting factor. I do have access at work to a South Bend, I don't know the exact size, but it's probably a 12 x 60 and an older South Bend that's about 36 inches long. The problem is I work for the federal government and most people at work wouldn't like it too much if I had a rifle barrel or action chucked up in the lathe. I can do most of the work I need to do on a 7x14, but could possibly sneak in some time on the work lathes if I had to on a weekend.
Bob
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Tony Smith" wrote:
Not sure of the price range you guys are looking at,but at 1150.00 my 10x22
from grizzly is several times the lathe that the 7x12 it replaced. I lost the 7x12 to
thieves last winter, and got the 10x22 as I kept seeing the 7x14 for around
$800+ with a bit less than what the 10x22 came with. The wife wasn't so happy
with the extra cost, but now that i'm getting used to the bigger I'm glad I got it. It
comes with 5" 3 jaw, 6" four jaw chuck, face plate, steady rest, follow rest, mt4
center, mt3 center, plus a little tool box to hold the tools in till you get a bench
made. I still miss the 7x12 tho, it was my first lathe and I had lots of fun learning
with it.
Dennis
It is indeed several times the lathe:
(that's a 7x10, but close enough).
Tony
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Re: 100mm spindle source in US?
There are some exceptional home built CNC machines, some not easily quantifiable as a lathe, e.g. this one:
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The lathe and mill shown here are VERY capable machines:
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Serious hobbyists can do amazing things.
John
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--- In 7x12minilathe@..., cnc sales wrote:
This is one of the nicest scratch built lathes I know of.
And one of less than 10 finished - scratch built cnc latehs are very rare.
Equally rare are scratch built cnc mills..
I know of about 5 in total.
(Mills as in of and for steel, with milling spindle. Not routers for alu).
Im going with AC ball bearings.
This is on a custom made CNC mini lathe. My buddy steve built it a few
years ago, and I ended up with it. Just stepping it up a little.
--- In 7x12minilathe@...
, "andyf1108" wrote:
Glad to be able to help. Mike of this Group put one on his Clarke
(rebadged Sieg) 7x lathe, and fitted taper roller bearings to the
spindle at the same time - something you might like to consider. See
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Andy
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