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Re: is this an original minilathe

 

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I think with a gap bed on one of these lathes that ya would be givin up most of the rigidity that ya have .

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On 1/3/24 1:34 PM, Charles Kinzer wrote:

And a gap bed configuration would be another alternative.? This would allow swinging (not necessarily machining to the outside diameter) of a larger disc like piece.? Usually something like a disc where you are machining a smaller feature like a shoulder or boring a hole.

It could be a removable gap piece (cheapest way) or a sliding bed to create the gap or close it.

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 01:26:56 PM PST, Miket_NYC <mctaglieri@...> wrote:


I wish someone would make "raising blocks" for the 7x minilathe the way South Bend did to make the "Large Swing" model in this article?

I realize that a bigger lathe is bigger in all dimensions and capabilities, but center height is the main area home hobbyists sometimes wish we had more of.? And owners of bigger lathes do too. Logan made this remarkable gadget to get more center height on their 11" lathe without disturbing the headstock.



As you can see, this fastened on the bed as needed moved the spindle up and to the rear, and slowed it down, connecting on the left side to the original spindle. It's a pity someone doesn't make something like this for the 7x lathe. (Any chance you're reading this,? LMS?)

Mike Taglieri?


Re: is this an original minilathe

 

Charles Kinzer
7:35am? ?
Just power feed.
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 07:07:21 AM PST, Craig Hopewell via groups.io <cch80124@...> wrote:
Those little ManSon lathes are "cute as a button". 8^)
I agree.

I would think in time we will see more stepper motors use for power feed on mini lathes syncing to spindle.?
The tech is here but just takes time.?

Right now a DC drive on a lathe , works like mill power feed and a good eye ball.

Next cross feed power feed. I do not know how much any one would use power cross feed on a mini lathe?

Dave?


Re: is this an original minilathe

 

Just power feed.

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 07:07:21 AM PST, Craig Hopewell via groups.io <cch80124@...> wrote:


Those little ManSon lathes are "cute as a button".? ?8^)

Did not yet read all the information, but by appearance have threading, or at least power feel capability.

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Re: is this an original minilathe

 

Those little ManSon lathes are "cute as a button".? ?8^)

Did not yet read all the information, but by appearance have threading, or at least power feel capability.

--
Lone Tree, Colorado? ?USA


Re: is this an original minilathe

 

Good video, as usual.? Yes, as he said those are quite collectible now and fetch a lot of money,

I acquired a MasterSon incarnation one in about 1964 from a friend, actually used it to make some model railroad parts, and then just stored it away until I foolishly sold it.? I bought another many years later that came with the VERY rare carrying case.? The lathes.co.uk site has my photos of that MasterSon lathe with the case.

If you want to read much more, see many more photos, ads, etc. here is the link to the first page of several at lathes.co.uk for these things.



Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer



On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 10:36:57 PM PST, Brian VanDragt <bvandragt@...> wrote:


Mr Pete started a video series on small lathes today. He starts with a 2x3 Manson lathe weighing 5.5 pounds.
https://youtu.be/Ut3LqZUlc_4?si=ZZj-THnU0LZQBpFQ

Brian?

-------- Original message --------
From: Aaron Woods <awoods550@...>
Date: 1/4/24 9:30 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] is this an original minilathe

The terms, mini, micro and baby seem to have originated with Seig. I don't know that there is really much use to more fine grained than "small bench top" lathe' at most maybe "Table top" to distinguish the smaller easily moved (under 100lbs) from the larger more static models.

Swing obviously plays some part in this' but an Atlas /Craftsman 6x18" with its greater weight, and rear mounted motor is much less portable than a 7x14.


Re: is this an original minilathe

 

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Mr Pete started a video series on small lathes today. He starts with a 2x3 Manson lathe weighing 5.5 pounds.
https://youtu.be/Ut3LqZUlc_4?si=ZZj-THnU0LZQBpFQ

Brian?

-------- Original message --------
From: Aaron Woods <awoods550@...>
Date: 1/4/24 9:30 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] is this an original minilathe

The terms, mini, micro and baby seem to have originated with Seig. I don't know that there is really much use to more fine grained than "small bench top" lathe' at most maybe "Table top" to distinguish the smaller easily moved (under 100lbs) from the larger more static models.

Swing obviously plays some part in this' but an Atlas /Craftsman 6x18" with its greater weight, and rear mounted motor is much less portable than a 7x14.


Re: Selling Price of Used Minilathe?

 

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I agree. Keep it up. :)

rde

Australia

On 13/1/24 03:46, Miket_NYC wrote:

I hope this means you're moving to a bigger lathe, not that you're giving up machining. Your contributions here are very valuable.

Mike Taglieri?

On Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 9:16 PM OldToolmaker via <old_toolmaker=[email protected]> wrote:
What would be good asking price for a well maintained ten year old 7x16 minilathe tooled up with all the standard chucks and tooling? Lathe looks great.
I was thinking maybe 50% of new?
Coments Welcome


Re: Selling Price of Used Minilathe?

Chris Albertson
 

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Don't forget that you are also competing against all the now-affordable CNC tools now available. ?That is what most people under some age would want. ? So try selling locally, then if that does not work, put it on the global market. ?I’ve shipped smaller stuff as far as New Zealand, Japan, and Europe and quite large stuff to the US East Cost. (I’m in California). In eBay, it is common for buyer to pay shipping but you have to pack it or art least take it to a shipper who will pack it.

On Jan 12, 2024, at 10:25?AM, davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:

Chris Albertson
9:56am? ?
One problem is shipping. Companies like Amazon or Grizzly can ship at a much lower cost them you can because of their volume. The buyer, if he is smart, will look at the total delivered cost. You will also do better including only the very minimum of tooling as buyers who are shopping for used equipment are looking for a low cost of entry. Sell the non-essential tooling separately and you might even get more for it.? ?


Re: Off-topic -- replacing a smartphone battery

 

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iFixit is the best DIY electronics repair site ever. I’ve repaired tons of stuff with their guides and their tools. And sadly you’re right about some of the commenters :-(?

On Jan 12, 2024, at 8:51 PM, Miket_NYC <mctaglieri@...> wrote:

This is off topic for the subject of this group, but almost everyone here will be faced with this eventually, and the people here are tech-savvy folks fully capable of doing what I did, so I'm sharing it anyway.
Tonight I did something I've been planning (and to some extent dreading) for several months. The buzzards have been circling for the battery in my Samsung S10e smartphone for quite a while, but I didn't think paying someone to replace it would be worth the money. So I replaced it myself, using an iFixit battery and repair kit, plus their online repair guide.
And the job went fine. I've installed batteries in electronic devices before, but modern phones are waterproof, which means the back covers are glued on with heat-sensitive adhesive. The part I feared was removing that cover, since you need to apply enough heat to soften the glue, but too much heat applied to a lithium battery could do very bad things. (The warning in red in this photo, and similar ones throughout iFixit's online guide, definitely focus the mind).

--?
Bruce Johnson

"Wherever you go, there you are." B. Banzai, PhD


Re: Off-topic -- replacing a smartphone battery

 

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Dear Mike,
Thank you (for lots of us, I’m sure) for an interesting and informative article. I didn’t know iFixit existed.
David?

On 13 Jan 2024, at 03:52, Miket_NYC <mctaglieri@...> wrote:

The warning in red in this photo, and similar ones throughout iFixit's online guide, definitely focus the mind).
The iFixit instructions for this phone are available free at and they're worth reading if you question whether you can do this job -- iPhones with glued-on backs have their own instructions but are similar (There are also many comments in these instructions, including some added by yours truly under the name "MikeT-NYC").
But I was frankly amazed at obliviousness of some of the others who did this job including one commenter who keeps calling iFixit "criminals" for providing instructions that were totally wrong -- it's fairly obvious that he or she was trying to fix a different phone and was reading the wrong instructions.
Also, there were many commenters trying to fix their phones without the proper equipment, particularly for removing the cover. The iFixit kit ($38.96) includes an "iOpener" -- a microwave-heatable gel pack like the kind sold in drug stores for sore muscles, but the size of a large hot dog. Several people asked if they could use a heat gun instead


Re: Off-topic -- replacing a smartphone battery

 

I've fixed a few phones over the years, the newer ones definately require more patience to get them apart.

iFixit generally do a good job with their guides, if you fall following those then repair probably isn't for you.? We all have an inflated sense of our abilities (I mean how hard can it be?) but as the old George Carlin joke goes, look at how dumb the average person is, then you realise half of people are dumber than that.

Most adhesives release at about 80-90 Celcius (a bit below bolling water), a 2000W shop heat gun might be a bit excessive, but a hair dryer works fine.

The pro's use a heat plate that runs at 90c, you put the phone on it for about 10 minutes.? I've got one I use for PCB soldering stuff, too small and too hot for phones.? A few of them just use an oven, just roast the phone for 10 minutes.? I've used a toaster oven to get decals off metal parts, works great.

The EU is forcing manufacturers to have replaceable batteries, so repair might get easier in future.

My current phone is supposedly a rugged one, I've yet to break it.? It does have a bunch of visible screws that don't look decorative, so maybe it is easier to take apart.

I only got it (Doogee S98) because it's got a thermal camera, a surprisingly handy thing to have.

Tony


On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, 14:51 Miket_NYC <mctaglieri@...> wrote:
This is off topic for the subject of this group, but almost everyone here will be faced with this eventually, and the people here are tech-savvy folks fully capable of doing what I did, so I'm sharing it anyway.
Tonight I did something I've been planning (and to some extent dreading) for several months. The buzzards have been circling for the battery in my Samsung S10e smartphone for quite a while, but I didn't think paying someone to replace it would be worth the money. So I replaced it myself, using an iFixit battery and repair kit, plus their online repair guide.
And the job went fine. I've installed batteries in electronic devices before, but modern phones are waterproof, which means the back covers are glued on with heat-sensitive adhesive. The part I feared was removing that cover, since you need to apply enough heat to soften the glue, but too much heat applied to a lithium battery could do very bad things. (The warning in red in this photo, and similar ones throughout iFixit's online guide, definitely focus the mind).
The iFixit instructions for this phone are available free at and they're worth reading if you question whether you can do this job -- iPhones with glued-on backs have their own instructions but are similar (There are also many comments in these instructions, including some added by yours truly under the name "MikeT-NYC").
But I was frankly amazed at obliviousness of some of the others who did this job including one commenter who keeps calling iFixit "criminals" for providing instructions that were totally wrong -- it's fairly obvious that he or she was trying to fix a different phone and was reading the wrong instructions.
Also, there were many commenters trying to fix their phones without the proper equipment, particularly for removing the cover. The iFixit kit ($38.96) includes an "iOpener" -- a microwave-heatable gel pack like the kind sold in drug stores for sore muscles, but the size of a large hot dog. Several people asked if they could use a heat gun instead. Of COURSE you can, if you're a fool. I have several heat guns, but a heat gun puts out about 500 degrees, and broadcasts the heat everywhere. The iOpener is a slim little gel tube that gets to about 150 F -- just uncomfortable to the touch -- and concentrates the heat in a thin strip, so you can nicely heat the edges of the cover without cooking your battery or the electronics. The iFixit toolkit is cheap and smartphones are very expensive. So why would anybody with a three-digit IQ blast 500 degrees onto a phone (containing a battery well-known for becoming an incendiary device) in order to save $39 on a repair kit?
All in all, this kit was complete and the instructions were thorough. And so far the battery seems to be a good one. (I've "repaired" other devices with eBay batteries that turned out to be little improvement on the one I removed). So if your phone battery is dying and you're reasonably handy, go for it.

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Re: Off-topic -- replacing a smartphone battery

 

The heat guns I use for electronics? / adhesive release are temperature adjustable from 120F to 1150F.? I also use a 3/8" reduction nozzle.?


Re: [Metal-Shapers-and-Planers] Off-topic -- replacing a smartphone battery

 

Just ace repairman like this guy for Apple products.?

Dave?


Re: [Metal-Shapers-and-Planers] Off-topic -- replacing a smartphone battery

 

ifixit has bee keeping my IPOD Classic alive & well for
several years now . Next is I have a blown speaker in my MacBook , they
have a speaker kit just waitin for me to order it . Good folks to deal with

??? animal

On 1/12/24 7:51 PM, Miket_NYC wrote:
This is off topic for the subject of this group, but almost everyone here
will be faced with this eventually, and the people here are tech-savvy
folks fully capable of doing what I did, so I'm sharing it anyway.
Tonight I did something I've been planning (and to some extent dreading)
for several months. The buzzards have been circling for the battery in my
Samsung S10e smartphone for quite a while, but I didn't think paying
someone to replace it would be worth the money. So I replaced it myself,
using an iFixit battery and repair kit, plus their online repair guide.
And the job went fine. I've installed batteries in electronic devices
before, but modern phones are waterproof, which means the back covers are
glued on with heat-sensitive adhesive. The part I feared was removing that
cover, since you need to apply enough heat to soften the glue, but too much
heat applied to a lithium battery could do very bad things. (The warning in
red in this photo, and similar ones throughout iFixit's online guide,
definitely focus the mind).
The iFixit instructions for this phone are available free at

<>
and they're worth reading if you question whether you can do this job --
iPhones with glued-on backs have their own instructions but are similar
(There are also many comments in these instructions, including some added
by yours truly under the name "MikeT-NYC").
But I was frankly amazed at obliviousness of some of the others who did
this job including one commenter who keeps calling iFixit "criminals" for
providing instructions that were totally wrong -- it's fairly obvious that
he or she was trying to fix a different phone and was reading the wrong
instructions.
Also, there were many commenters trying to fix their phones without the
proper equipment, particularly for removing the cover. The iFixit kit
($38.96) includes an "iOpener" -- a microwave-heatable gel pack like the
kind sold in drug stores for sore muscles, but the size of a large hot dog.
Several people asked if they could use a heat gun instead. Of COURSE you
can, if you're a fool. I have several heat guns, but a heat gun puts out
about 500 degrees, and broadcasts the heat everywhere. The iOpener is a
slim little gel tube that gets to about 150 F -- just uncomfortable to the
touch -- and concentrates the heat in a thin strip, so you can nicely heat
the edges of the cover without cooking your battery or the electronics. The
iFixit toolkit is cheap and smartphones are very expensive. So why would
anybody with a three-digit IQ blast 500 degrees onto a phone (containing a
battery well-known for becoming an incendiary device) in order to save $39
on a repair kit?
All in all, this kit was complete and the instructions were thorough. And
so far the battery seems to be a good one. (I've "repaired" other devices
with eBay batteries that turned out to be little improvement on the one I
removed). So if your phone battery is dying and you're reasonably handy, go
for it.

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Re: 38 $ lathe ?

 

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??? ??? Weird , it let's me refresh the page , but if I copy & past it to my browser I get a 404?

??? animal

On 1/12/24 11:17 AM, mario mohl wrote:

Page not found

On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 1:15?PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote:


animal







Off-topic -- replacing a smartphone battery

 

This is off topic for the subject of this group, but almost everyone here will be faced with this eventually, and the people here are tech-savvy folks fully capable of doing what I did, so I'm sharing it anyway.
Tonight I did something I've been planning (and to some extent dreading) for several months. The buzzards have been circling for the battery in my Samsung S10e smartphone for quite a while, but I didn't think paying someone to replace it would be worth the money. So I replaced it myself, using an iFixit battery and repair kit, plus their online repair guide.
And the job went fine. I've installed batteries in electronic devices before, but modern phones are waterproof, which means the back covers are glued on with heat-sensitive adhesive. The part I feared was removing that cover, since you need to apply enough heat to soften the glue, but too much heat applied to a lithium battery could do very bad things. (The warning in red in this photo, and similar ones throughout iFixit's online guide, definitely focus the mind).
The iFixit instructions for this phone are available free at and they're worth reading if you question whether you can do this job -- iPhones with glued-on backs have their own instructions but are similar (There are also many comments in these instructions, including some added by yours truly under the name "MikeT-NYC").
But I was frankly amazed at obliviousness of some of the others who did this job including one commenter who keeps calling iFixit "criminals" for providing instructions that were totally wrong -- it's fairly obvious that he or she was trying to fix a different phone and was reading the wrong instructions.
Also, there were many commenters trying to fix their phones without the proper equipment, particularly for removing the cover. The iFixit kit ($38.96) includes an "iOpener" -- a microwave-heatable gel pack like the kind sold in drug stores for sore muscles, but the size of a large hot dog. Several people asked if they could use a heat gun instead. Of COURSE you can, if you're a fool. I have several heat guns, but a heat gun puts out about 500 degrees, and broadcasts the heat everywhere. The iOpener is a slim little gel tube that gets to about 150 F -- just uncomfortable to the touch -- and concentrates the heat in a thin strip, so you can nicely heat the edges of the cover without cooking your battery or the electronics. The iFixit toolkit is cheap and smartphones are very expensive. So why would anybody with a three-digit IQ blast 500 degrees onto a phone (containing a battery well-known for becoming an incendiary device) in order to save $39 on a repair kit?
All in all, this kit was complete and the instructions were thorough. And so far the battery seems to be a good one. (I've "repaired" other devices with eBay batteries that turned out to be little improvement on the one I removed). So if your phone battery is dying and you're reasonably handy, go for it.

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Re: Selling Price of Used Minilathe?

 

Aaron Woods
9:48am? ?
Agree 50-60% of new, and then add for any extra stuff above and beyond what comes standard. Make sure you show and list what all it comes with, and highlight what is over and above what comes with a lathe when buying new. I see so many ads where it just says "lots of tooling" but doesn't then show or say what that tooling
Sound great?
I have Sterrett 17 and 16 mic new is around $800.00 but I am look at ebay and selling 50 to 250 and few goes over that price. Then shipping in $100.00.

Back in 1980 I order a new Bridgeport with a 11 month waiting to get . I had a few places willing to give me $8,000 over the new price to get new Bridgeport.

It is more of what the mart will give and shipping will kill sales. Then we have Amazon and Walmart with free shipping.??
People do not a name brand from a way off brand aka rubber stamp name.
10 years ago it was easy to sell

Dave?


Re: 38 $ lathe ?

 

Good news you can payment options.?
They have link for that.

Dave?


Re: 38 $ lathe ?

 

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The rare and elusive 404 lathe :-)


On Jan 12, 2024, at 12:15 PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

https://ciqmsob.com/products/metal15?pp=0&variant=39968068

animal


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Bruce Johnson

The less a man knows about how sausages and laws are made, the easier it is to steal his vote and give him botulism.


Re: 38 $ lathe ?

 

That link does not work