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On 02/07/2013 02:01 AM, Ellis Cory wrote:

cnc sales wrote.......There is a very easy way to remember the axis designations. The lathe is a horizontal mill. You stand at the TS and look towards the HS.
x is right, y is up, and z is towards you........

I haven't used a CNC lathe, only mill but, what would you use the Y axis for besides maybe tool compensation?

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Well I wasn't entirely disagreeing with you.
The emphatic No no no no, certainly stirred up some emotion.? (Big Smile)
But after following this thread of posts I can see now there seems to be a "standard"?
It also seems to follow the mathematical norm.
Now would someone mind telling/informing a few of the would be Autocad users?
However I thought the right hand rule was for electronics only? Lenz's Law?
Or did he borrow the term from the Mathematical community?
Thanks for the correction!
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John Kiely (IRL)


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From: cnc sales
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Axis designations





No, no, no, no !

There are LOTS of excellent reasons never to swap the designations.
For cnc use especially.

There is tool tip compensation, tool wear compensation, css (very very important), feed per rev, and so on, all of which are always based on using std nomenclature for the axis.

There is a very easy way to remember the axis designations.
The lathe is a horizontal mill.
You stand at the TS and look towards the HS.

x is right, y is up, and z is towards you.
(Also known ass Right Hand Rule [follow the thumb]).
If you use other non std axis names, and ever get to use someone eless, anyone elses setup, this can easily come back to bite you.


Might I suggest Gentlemen, that your choice of X,Y,Z axes very much depends on the tools you use and your own personal perspective.

If you use a CAD package it might make more sense to follow?the XY&Z perspective it offers.
If you are a mathematician X would be Horizontal from left to right?Y your Vertical (Up Down) and Z your other horizontal of backwards and forwards.
I think it all comes down to your own personal preference and possibly the tool you use?
Ask any mathematician why they use XY&Z and they will tell you that they are just arbitrary values!
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John Kiely (IRL)

"When I read that "wondering if there is a way of making one" I thought
someone must have made the first one, eh? "
OK if you are in the mood of splitting hair over English language
phrases then let me clarify by rephrasing the sentence -- is there is
a way and means for the hobby individual person to make a rotary
broach holder (as oppose to the sophisticated industrial production
line equipment that most hobby users lack access to). Now Morton you
see how this could be cumbersome to explain when we try to spit hairs
rather than using common sense (seems not that common ...for some). in
any event I guess it will be allot easier for me if English was my
first language...would you like to try it in a different language
maybe that will clarify the issue.

Not sure of the price range you guys are looking at,but at 1150.00 my 10x22
from grizzly is several times the lathe that the 7x12 it replaced. I lost the 7x12 to
thieves last winter, and got the 10x22 as I kept seeing the 7x14 for around
$800+ with a bit less than what the 10x22 came with. The wife wasn't so happy
with the extra cost, but now that i'm getting used to the bigger I'm glad I got it. It
comes with 5" 3 jaw, 6" four jaw chuck, face plate, steady rest, follow rest, mt4
center, mt3 center, plus a little tool box to hold the tools in till you get a bench
made. I still miss the 7x12 tho, it was my first lathe and I had lots of fun learning
with it.
Dennis

It is indeed several times the lathe:

(that's a 7x10, but close enough).

Tony

On 02/07/2013 02:01 AM, Ellis Cory wrote:

cnc sales wrote.......There is a very easy way to remember the axis
designations. The lathe is a horizontal mill. You stand at the TS and
look towards the HS.
x is right, y is up, and z is towards you........

I haven't used a CNC lathe, only mill but, what would you use the Y axis
for besides maybe tool compensation?

--
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com
tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
Skype: jerrydurand

"When I read that "wondering if there is a way of making one" I thought
someone must have made the first one, eh? "
OK if you are in the mood of splitting hair over English language
phrases then let me clarify by rephrasing the sentence -- is there is
a way and means for the hobby individual person to make a rotary
broach holder (as oppose to the sophisticated industrial production
line equipment that most hobby users lack access to). Now Morton you
see how this could be cumbersome to explain when we try to spit hairs
rather than using common sense (seems not that common ...for some). in
any event I guess it will be allot easier for me if English was my
first language...would you like to try it in a different language
maybe that will clarify the issue.

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I saw a few weeks back guys using cyno superglue to attach small pieces to dress them up,someone was turning both sides of a narrow washer, I cant remember how to seperate the turned piece.
I glued some 2 inch ali bar it held good , now ?its still held good .
I tried hitting it with a plastic mallet , wondering If I should soak it, hoping the cyno will break down.
Don

I was wondering if there is a way of making one...I just cant bring myself