Re: cant view any files

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Yes and yes.?

On Jul 26, 2019, at 1:51 AM, ken ken.meinken@... [4x6bandsaw] <4x6bandsaw@...> wrote:

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Do you have a Yahoo ID and did you sign in with it?

Ken

moderator

On 7/26/19 1:36 AM, Zach Penland zachp3nland@... [4x6bandsaw] wrote:

hey, just joined the group. I'm trying to view the files I've been told about but i cant see anything. I was hoping to find some information on setting up and easy mods for my bandsaw. can anyone help me out?

Re: cant view any files

ken

#14787

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Zach,

can you see items in the photos section??? Currently, I see nothing in the files section.?

Ken, moderator

On 7/26/19 1:36 AM, Zach Penland zachp3nland@... [4x6bandsaw] wrote:

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hey, just joined the group. I'm trying to view the files I've been told about but i cant see anything. I was hoping to find some information on setting up and easy mods for my bandsaw. can anyone help me out?

Re: cant view any files

#14786

You are not the only one. I am a member of the group.? I have a Yahoo ID. I have signed in. I have access to conversations, photos, attachments and more, but, if I click on Files or All Files I only get a blank page. I used to have access to files! What has happened?

Re: cant view any files

ken

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Robert,

You are right, photos show up but there is nothing in the files section.? I assume there were items there in the past but I don't know for sure.? If it is a Yahoo fluke, the files might come back, or might not.

Ken, moderator

On 7/26/19 2:58 AM, 'Robert Downs' wa5cab@... [4x6bandsaw] wrote:

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Well, it looks weird.? Photos is still working.? As is what they call Conversations I think (the Bulletin Board version of the messages).? What should show up after you log in and click Files in the main tool bar are two tabs named Files and Attachments (they don’t actually look like tabs but if you click on them they act like them).? And then below that, the actual file names that you click on to open up a file.? Although most have moved to groups.io, some of my Groups are still on Yahoo and all of the rest of them (or at least the three I looked at) are still working OK.? It acts like someone has turned the files feature off just on this one group.? I’m a moderator or owner on several other Groups but not this one.? I don’t recall being able to do that.? But maybe I just never needed to turn files off.?

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Anyway, I guess you will just have to wait until the owner comes up, and ask him.

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Robert Downs

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From: 4x6bandsaw@... [mailto:4x6bandsaw@...]
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 00:36
To: 4x6bandsaw@...
Subject: [4x6bandsaw] cant view any files

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hey, just joined the group. I'm trying to view the files I've been told about but i cant see anything. I was hoping to find some information on setting up and easy mods for my bandsaw. can anyone help me out?

Re: cant view any files

#14784

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Well, it looks weird.? Photos is still working.? As is what they call Conversations I think (the Bulletin Board version of the messages).? What should show up after you log in and click Files in the main tool bar are two tabs named Files and Attachments (they don’t actually look like tabs but if you click on them they act like them).? And then below that, the actual file names that you click on to open up a file.? Although most have moved to groups.io, some of my Groups are still on Yahoo and all of the rest of them (or at least the three I looked at) are still working OK.? It acts like someone has turned the files feature off just on this one group.? I’m a moderator or owner on several other Groups but not this one.? I don’t recall being able to do that.? But maybe I just never needed to turn files off.?

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Anyway, I guess you will just have to wait until the owner comes up, and ask him.

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Robert Downs

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From: 4x6bandsaw@... [mailto:4x6bandsaw@...]
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 00:36
To: 4x6bandsaw@...
Subject: [4x6bandsaw] cant view any files

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hey, just joined the group. I'm trying to view the files I've been told about but i cant see anything. I was hoping to find some information on setting up and easy mods for my bandsaw. can anyone help me out?

Re: cant view any files

ken

#14783

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Do you have a Yahoo ID and did you sign in with it?

Ken

moderator

On 7/26/19 1:36 AM, Zach Penland zachp3nland@... [4x6bandsaw] wrote:

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hey, just joined the group. I'm trying to view the files I've been told about but i cant see anything. I was hoping to find some information on setting up and easy mods for my bandsaw. can anyone help me out?

cant view any files

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hey, just joined the group. I'm trying to view the files I've been told about but i cant see anything. I was hoping to find some information on setting up and easy mods for my bandsaw. can anyone help me out?

Re: help fix 4x6 bandsaw "Packard Precision" gear worn out

[email protected]

#14781

Hi Steve

I think your going to find it very difficult to get a spare off another machine.? Most of the saws I've seen have a 20T bronze gear and I know of 23T.? Yours is the first I've heard of with 17T.

Don't know if the combined shaft centres mean you could replace both gear and worm from another saw.

My 20T-bronze-gear gearbox has shaft centres as near as I can make it 34mm (1.339").? These things were made metric, so I'd expect it to be a whole number of millimeters.?

Rgds - jv

Re: help fix 4x6 bandsaw "Packard Precision" gear worn out

#14780

I have a Packard "heavy duty" 4x6 I bought at a yard sale about 6 years ago for $30.? Model P817, made in Taiwan in '85.? More of a 4x7+,? the right side material stop can be moved to the right and back to give more capacity when needed.? A friend of mine has the same model, similar date that has never been used.? It was apparently assembled, then fell over, breaking one of the pivot bosses, and was put into storage.? I've never compared the gearing in mine to the modern equivalents, but unless they found a cheaper way to do it, I'd think they would still be using the same parts.

-Dave

On Sunday, July 14, 2019, 02:10:55 PM PDT, hsteven@... [4x6bandsaw] <4x6bandsaw@...> wrote:

My 4x6 metal cutting bandsaw has failed me, after 40 years of use.? I bought it from a low-end tool vendor who went out of business shortly after I bought it from him, for $175 I think.? It has been used a lot, not so much in the last 10 years as I got older.? The brand name on the label plate is "Packard Precision", Div. of Sterling Packard Corp, Vernon Calif., no model number or serial number on the label.? I think it was made in Taiwan, since China had not started exporting material to the US in the 1970's.? I found on the internet the company was incorporated in 1977, has since gone out of business.? Later products list location as Glendale, California as company location, and Taiwan as country of origin.

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The failure is in the bronze gear that turns the driving wheel, the steel worm seems to still be good.? The bearings still seem to be OK, but the worm will no longer turn the bronze gear.? I have a photo of the bronze gear, I will try to attach it.? Dimensions of the gear are:? OD: 1.860" (47.24mm),? shaft ID .593" (15.46mm), gear thickness ..530" (13.46mm), gear thickness including hub 1.040" (26.42mm), 17 teeth.

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Does anyone have any data on a similar machine that I could source a part from?? Jet is a possibility, I looked up a jet part for a similar machine, it was $100.? Too rich for me.?

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I think I will try Grizzley, they are said to have parts for similar machines.?

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Steve

Re: help fix 4x6 bandsaw "Packard Precision" gear worn out

Larry White

#14779

I have a?4x6 bandsaw?National brand that is over 40 years old. ?Vendor that sold it went out of business shortly after I bought it. ?Needless to say it is very well used and I have made several parts for it to keep it going. ?The motor finally went out and I found a very rusty Jet saw on C/L for $40.00. ?I bought it for parts hoping they would fit and as it turns out the parts are identical so far. ?

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To: 4x6bandsaw@...

Sent: 07/14/19 4:10:26 PM

Subject: [4x6bandsaw] help fix 4x6 bandsaw "Packard Precision" gear worn out

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My 4x6 metal cutting bandsaw has failed me, after 40 years of use.? I bought it from a low-end tool vendor who went out of business shortly after I bought it from him, for $175 I think.? It has been used a lot, not so much in the last 10 years as I got older.? The brand name on the label plate is "Packard Precision", Div. of Sterling Packard Corp, Vernon Calif., no model number or serial number on the label.? I think it was made in Taiwan, since China had not started exporting material to the US in the 1970's.? I found on the internet the company was incorporated in 1977, has since gone out of business.? Later products list location as Glendale, California as company location, and Taiwan as country of origin.

?

The failure is in the bronze gear that turns the driving wheel, the steel worm seems to still be good.? The bearings still seem to be OK, but the worm will no longer turn the bronze gear.? I have a photo of the bronze gear, I will try to attach it.? Dimensions of the gear are:? OD: 1.860" (47.24mm),? shaft ID .593" (15.46mm), gear thickness ..530" (13.46mm), gear thickness including hub 1.040" (26.42mm), 17 teeth.

?

Does anyone have any data on a similar machine that I could source a part from?? Jet is a possibility, I looked up a jet part for a similar machine, it was $100.? Too rich for me.?

?

I think I will try Grizzley, they are said to have parts for similar machines.?

?

Steve

help fix 4x6 bandsaw "Packard Precision" gear worn out

#14778

My 4x6 metal cutting bandsaw has failed me, after 40 years of use.? I bought it from a low-end tool vendor who went out of business shortly after I bought it from him, for $175 I think.? It has been used a lot, not so much in the last 10 years as I got older.? The brand name on the label plate is "Packard Precision", Div. of Sterling Packard Corp, Vernon Calif., no model number or serial number on the label.? I think it was made in Taiwan, since China had not started exporting material to the US in the 1970's.? I found on the internet the company was incorporated in 1977, has since gone out of business.? Later products list location as Glendale, California as company location, and Taiwan as country of origin.

?

The failure is in the bronze gear that turns the driving wheel, the steel worm seems to still be good.? The bearings still seem to be OK, but the worm will no longer turn the bronze gear.? I have a photo of the bronze gear, I will try to attach it.? Dimensions of the gear are:? OD: 1.860" (47.24mm),? shaft ID .593" (15.46mm), gear thickness .530" (13.46mm), gear thickness including hub 1.040" (26.42mm), 17 teeth.

?

Does anyone have any data on a similar machine that I could source a part from?? Jet is a possibility, I looked up a jet part for a similar machine, it was $100.? Too rich for me.?

?

I think I will try Grizzley, they are said to have parts for similar machines.?

?

Steve

Re: Butt welder

[email protected]

#14777

Great resource for us all.??

Just what I need to get mine going properly

Thanks Dallas - jv

Re: Butt welder

#14776

Sorry I am a little late to reply, I was out of town when this thread started.? I have created a new folder named Blade Welding, Electric in the files section.? This folder contains several items of use to this topic.

One of the companies I used to consult with had dozens of electric band saw blade welders most of which were built into the various band saws and some stand alone units.? I have successfully welded many blades on these commercial units and when Harbor Freight started selling a blade welder I bought one for my home shop.

I tried dozens of welds with the Harbor Freight unit and was never satisfied with them.? They always broke too soon if not during blade installation, then soon after.? In an effort to investigate the reason, I made measurements of a couple of the welders I had used successfully at work, specifically a DoAll and Powermatic brand.? My conclusion was the HF unit was delivering a little too much voltage.

I made up several dozen blades at work and am still using them and have not modified the HF unit.? Because I have lots of blades I don't a burning desire to get the HF working properly.? But I believe it needs some circuitry to deliver a time variable voltage that can be adjusted both in time duration and voltage.? When I get around to doing this, I plan to use an adjustable one shot timer to drive a solid state relay to deliver a welding pulse. A second circuit to deliver a series of pulses each pulse shorter and shorter pulse width to anneal the blade.

I think the HF just delivers too much energy so fast you literally cannot control it by pressing and releasing the factory power button.? You can't press and release quick enough.

Hopefully my data will help some other frustrated blade welders.

Dallas