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Re: ARE 30 DEGREES AND 60 DEGREES CUTTING ON METAL PIECE IMPORTANT ?

 

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You're welcome!

Other Bill



On 1/7/2024 5:38 PM, Henry wrote:
Hi, Bill:

THanks for your sharing, appreciate it.?


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Re: ARE 30 DEGREES AND 60 DEGREES CUTTING ON METAL PIECE IMPORTANT ?

 

Just needed 2 cuts at 18 but the only picture I had, I have made an occasional cut at 45 never 60

On Jan 7, 2024, at 8:35?PM, Henry <rongfu@...> wrote:

hi, David:
thanks for your reply, how about 45 and 60 degrees? or just only 18 you use mostly?

Henry


Re: ARE 30 DEGREES AND 60 DEGREES CUTTING ON METAL PIECE IMPORTANT ?

 

Hi, Bill:

THanks for your sharing, appreciate it.?


Re: ARE 30 DEGREES AND 60 DEGREES CUTTING ON METAL PIECE IMPORTANT ?

 

hi, David:
thanks for your reply, how about 45 and 60 degrees? or just only 18 you use mostly??

Henry


Re: ARE 30 DEGREES AND 60 DEGREES CUTTING ON METAL PIECE IMPORTANT ?

 

The 30° and 60° references as standards are usually found when operating a lathe.

The tool rest slides on a compound that rotates and has graduations in degrees with 0° being parallel with the axis, 90° is therefore perpendicular to the axis. The tool rest advance is graduated in thousandths of an inch, either in reference to the diameter of the part being machined or in reference to the radius of the part being machined, depending on the brand and model of the lathe. Either way when changing the Depth of Cut (DOC) one can use either the cross slide for direct measurement or one can use the tool post advance. If the tool post is set to 60° and the tool rest is advanced 1 graduation of the dial the change in DOC is 1/2 the reading on the dial. When making facing cuts (reducing the length of the workpiece) setting the compound to 30° will advance the tool into the work 1/2 the reading on the dial.?

The math behind this and other tricky lathe compound settings are far beyond the scope of this thread so please do not drag this on here, there are other forums for that. One in particular you may find interesting (if you are not already a member): /g/atlas-craftsman

Raymond


Re: ARE 30 DEGREES AND 60 DEGREES CUTTING ON METAL PIECE IMPORTANT ?

 

Actually 18 degs’ , Just needed a little filing to clean up and square

On Jan 3, 2024, at 9:26?PM, Henry <rongfu@...> wrote:

Hi Guys,

Welcome to share with me the comments of above subject. Why people need 60 , 30 degrees for cutting ? In what condition, what material, what applications we need these angles ?
Any comments will be highly appreciated.
Thanks.


Re: ARE 30 DEGREES AND 60 DEGREES CUTTING ON METAL PIECE IMPORTANT ?

 

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These little guys are cut at 40 degrees.
(attached)

Other Bill

On 1/4/2024 5:35 AM, Bill Armstrong wrote:

Depends on what you are doing.
I used to make a lot of parts for processing equipment, which required various angles, including 30 & 60 degree.
Most common is 45 degree, for miter cuts on square corners, but some things require different angles.

Attached is an example: Feeder spouts, cut at a 30 degree angle, made of 304L. I made a cutting fixture just for such angles.
Building any exhaust system parts? 30 degree is common for outlet tips. I've built some of those too.

Other Bill

On 1/3/2024 6:26 PM, Henry wrote:
Hi Guys,

Welcome to share with me the comments of above subject.??Why people need? 60 , 30 degrees for cutting ?? In what condition, what material, what applications we need these angles ???
Any comments will be highly appreciated.?
Thanks.


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Re: ARE 30 DEGREES AND 60 DEGREES CUTTING ON METAL PIECE IMPORTANT ?

 

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Depends on what you are doing.
I used to make a lot of parts for processing equipment, which required various angles, including 30 & 60 degree.
Most common is 45 degree, for miter cuts on square corners, but some things require different angles.

Attached is an example: Feeder spouts, cut at a 30 degree angle, made of 304L. I made a cutting fixture just for such angles.
Building any exhaust system parts? 30 degree is common for outlet tips. I've built some of those too.

Other Bill

On 1/3/2024 6:26 PM, Henry wrote:
Hi Guys,

Welcome to share with me the comments of above subject.??Why people need? 60 , 30 degrees for cutting ?? In what condition, what material, what applications we need these angles ???
Any comments will be highly appreciated.?
Thanks.


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ARE 30 DEGREES AND 60 DEGREES CUTTING ON METAL PIECE IMPORTANT ?

 

Hi Guys,

Welcome to share with me the comments of above subject.??Why people need? 60 , 30 degrees for cutting ?? In what condition, what material, what applications we need these angles ???
Any comments will be highly appreciated.?
Thanks.


Re: Entire head coming down at an angle?

David Pidwerbecki
 
Edited

Thanks.

I’m pretty much a hack when it comes to tools. ? These are things I borrowed from others or figured out on my own to improve the saw. ? It works great now. ?I just need to use it.

Quin (blondihacks) is an amazing machinist and teacher. ? I think she’s a software engineer too. ? She’s definitely ‘smarter than the average bear.’

I enjoy her YouTube channel too. ?My work is barbaric relative to her stuff.


Re: Entire head coming down at an angle?

 

Dave:

Your mods are amazing.
I think you have surpassed the original manufacturer's content and most of that saw is now 'yours.

I do not have a problem with loose pivot bushings, but you are right that any little bit gets magnified by the length of the head (and of course the flex in the frame doesn't help).? I think these deficiencies become tolerable because there is not much side force when cutting.

I recently found a YouTube video by 'Blondihacks' where she is really pushing the limits of a 4 x 6.
The result that she gets is quite good.? Apparently her saw cuts pretty square (looks like it is probably a JET).
I think you guys would enjoy it...

The relevant part is from 14:00 to 17:00 minutes if you want to jump right to the 4x6 section:


-Tom


Re: Entire head coming down at an angle?

David Pidwerbecki
 
Edited

A few comments:

* ?I drilled, tapped, and brass plugged a 1/8” NPT in my gearbox body and filled the box with the saw in the vertical position. ? I couldn’t tilt the saw due to my new stand. ? I really prefer the fill plug.

* I found that sawing wood didn’t work as well as sawing 1 1/2” round steel. ? Most of my squareness inconsistencies was due to the slop in the pivot bushings. ? The bushings were still reasonably round, but were grossly oversized. ? I turned a new pivot shaft and got it just right with very acceptable clearance. ? This is critical for getting reproducible cutting squareness.

* ?I actually filed my table so it was parallel to my pivot shaft. ? I did this because I got the pivot shaft so well sized.

* ?The saw frame is not very stiff. ? I replaced the blade hand tightener with a stud and a thrust washer and nut. ? I tighten the blade until it runs true and then give it 1 1/2 turns to tension the blade. ? ?This needs to be done before fiddling around with trying to square the cut. ? This should reproducibly distort the saw frame to the same position.

?I did all sorts of modifications to my saw. ? I bought my saw for $20 and this is the only reason why I haven’t spent more money than what I would have spent on a good saw that worked right out of the box. ? I have my mods shown in the photos section. ?

I’m really enjoying seeing comments from the’old guard’ and some new members!?

Dave


Re: Entire head coming down at an angle?

 

If I click on one of these 'broken' images in my original message (for instance the bizzare name: xdp-IMG20231224115318_small.jpg-hj2xcM), I can download it, change the name to something like 'testsmall.jpg' and the image is just fine.


Re: Entire head coming down at an angle?

 

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try to email the pic's to yerself & see ifin it wigs out

animal

On 12/26/23 2:32 PM, TomDiv wrote:

The images I tried to submit were very small (abut 300 x 400 pixels, each less than 30K).

It is very odd because when composing the message, the images appeared in-line with the text just fine.
But, when I submitted the post, they got messed up as you saw.

Subsequently, I tried composing a test message with the same images, and instead of submitting it, I did a 'preview'.? Again the images got messed up.


Re: Entire head coming down at an angle?

 

The images I tried to submit were very small (abut 300 x 400 pixels, each less than 30K).

It is very odd because when composing the message, the images appeared in-line with the text just fine.
But, when I submitted the post, they got messed up as you saw.

Subsequently, I tried composing a test message with the same images, and instead of submitting it, I did a 'preview'.? Again the images got messed up.


Re: Entire head coming down at an angle?

 

We're currently using about 1.2gb of the 30gb we're allowed. Photo size was limited to 1024x1024, I removed the restriction on it. We may have to revisit it if we start to fill up too soon. :)

Bill in OKC?

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Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
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Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 02:23:37 PM CST, Mark Kimball <markkimball51@...> wrote:


"My original file names were not like that.? They were just plain jpg.? When I uploaded them into my message, they looked fine.? It is only when I posted (or previewed them) that they broke.

Interesting!? I wonder if perhaps they exceeded some size limitation?? I've dragged & dropped images with no problems, but I usually use GIMP to scale them down to about 800 x 680.

Perhaps our Great Moderator(s) could weigh in on this.

Mark
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Re: Entire head coming down at an angle?

 

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Ya could try puttin them in the photos section of the group ..

animal

On 12/26/23 12:23 PM, Mark Kimball wrote:

"My original file names were not like that.? They were just plain jpg.? When I uploaded them into my message, they looked fine.? It is only when I posted (or previewed them) that they broke.

Interesting!? I wonder if perhaps they exceeded some size limitation?? I've dragged & dropped images with no problems, but I usually use GIMP to scale them down to about 800 x 680.

Perhaps our Great Moderator(s) could weigh in on this.

Mark
?


Re: Entire head coming down at an angle?

 

"My original file names were not like that.? They were just plain jpg.? When I uploaded them into my message, they looked fine.? It is only when I posted (or previewed them) that they broke.

Interesting!? I wonder if perhaps they exceeded some size limitation?? I've dragged & dropped images with no problems, but I usually use GIMP to scale them down to about 800 x 680.

Perhaps our Great Moderator(s) could weigh in on this.

Mark
?


Re: Entire head coming down at an angle?

 

Mark:

My original file names were not like that.? They were just plain jpg.? When I uploaded them into my message, they looked fine.? It is only when I posted (or previewed them) that they broke.

-Tom

On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 4:02?PM Mark Kimball <markkimball51@...> wrote:
Tom,

It might be the strange file extender for all your images.? The forum S/W probably didn't know what to do with them.? Try removing all the text after ".jpg".

Mark


Re: Entire head coming down at an angle?

 

Tom,

It might be the strange file extender for all your images.? The forum S/W probably didn't know what to do with them.? Try removing all the text after ".jpg".

Mark