I¡¯m a long time lurker.
I don¡¯t see how to contribute some money. ?Let me know and I¡¯ll paypal some over.
-Bill Kahn
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I'm a new moderator here, Ralph, not the owner, who asked for help. Can't do it on my own.?
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Thursday, December 17, 2020, 09:06:19 AM CST, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:
Bill just publish a paypal account and let that be your poll!!
Ralph
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 10:09 PM Bill in OKC too via <wmrmeyers= [email protected]> wrote: Well, we've had 32 people including myself take the poll. Less than 1% of the group. I thank those of you who took the time to vote, even if you don't want to contribute. I've looked at the photos, and I'm not seeing much of anything I think should not be preserved. IIRC, we have over 4300 members. If you lurk, or participate, but have not yet taken the poll, would you please do so??
I cannot do this by myself. Joe cannot do it by himself. We need some help here, folks! And if you have photos in an album that you don't think we need on the group anymore, would you please remove them? If you cannot get them to go, tell me about in a private email and I'll try to do it for you. You can email me at wmrmeyers (at) sbcglobal (dot) net or (at) yahoo (dot) com
Bill in OKC
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Re: Upgrading the group, or... - Was: Re: Uploading Photos and Files to [email protected].
It's currently $200/year, or $20/month (comes to $240/year). Things like that happen when you suddenly need a bunch of server space, as Mark did when a bunch of folks decide they all need to move at once.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Thursday, December 17, 2020, 08:54:34 AM CST, Ken Allio <alliok@...> wrote:
You have to select the poll from the blue box at the top.?
prepayment is not an option, the cost will go up over time. Last year it started at 110, then went up as io got really busy.?
Ken
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Re: Upgrading the group, or... - Was: Re: Uploading Photos and Files to [email protected].
I¡¯ll contribute, but couldn¡¯t find the poll.
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Bill just publish a paypal account and let that be your poll!!
Ralph
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 10:09 PM Bill in OKC too via <wmrmeyers= [email protected]> wrote: Well, we've had 32 people including myself take the poll. Less than 1% of the group. I thank those of you who took the time to vote, even if you don't want to contribute. I've looked at the photos, and I'm not seeing much of anything I think should not be preserved. IIRC, we have over 4300 members. If you lurk, or participate, but have not yet taken the poll, would you please do so??
I cannot do this by myself. Joe cannot do it by himself. We need some help here, folks! And if you have photos in an album that you don't think we need on the group anymore, would you please remove them? If you cannot get them to go, tell me about in a private email and I'll try to do it for you. You can email me at wmrmeyers (at) sbcglobal (dot) net or (at) yahoo (dot) com
Bill in OKC
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Re: Upgrading the group, or... - Was: Re: Uploading Photos and Files to [email protected].
You have to select the poll from the blue box at the top.?
prepayment is not an option, the cost will go up over time. Last year it started at 110, then went up as io got really busy.?
Ken
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Re: Upgrading the group, or... - Was: Re: Uploading Photos and Files to [email protected].
I havent seen the poll either, but willing to contribute. It seems, with 4000 members at even $1 each we could prepay for many, many years
David North
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On Dec 17, 2020, at 12:37 AM, Jeff Silvey <jeffincptx@...> wrote:
I can¡¯t find where I received a poll but I will place my vote as ¡° I¡¯m a lurker but I will contribute ¡°, a reasonable amount.
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 9:18 PM Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:
Just in case the Poll email doesn't display to everyone, I've asked everyone who participates in the group to take the poll. So far, only 32 people have done so. That is less than 1% of the members registered. I've also set the size of photos that can be uploaded or attached to be resized to 1024x1024 pixels. That is probably not going to be very satisfactory for my crappy old eyes, anymore. Especially on my phone. I hope it helps the rest of you.
Bill in OKC
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Re: Upgrading the group, or... - Was: Re: Uploading Photos and Files to [email protected].
It sent out a message about the poll with a link to the poll a couple days ago, and you can look at the messages on the group site, and click on the first message, which also has the link.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Thursday, December 17, 2020, 06:57:25 AM CST, Dallas <dallas@...> wrote:
I don¡¯t see the poll either, I see poll in the menu but that is to create a new poll.?
I will contribute a reasonable amount too. ?What cost are you looking at?
I owned several yahoo groups with thousands of members and feel your pain on getting participation. ?I think a lot of people are like me and take daily digests and scan them for only topics that interest them. I think a lot of others use the groups more as a reference library and only go to it periodically for help and never would be aware of a poll or the fact the group needs money to operate. Everyone is hooked on free internet resources. ?I¡¯ve noticed Wikipedia is also soliciting funding.?
Dallas
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Re: Upgrading the group, or... - Was: Re: Uploading Photos and Files to [email protected].
Do we remit the funds to the 4x6 administrator or the group administrator?
?Wheeler
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-------- Original message -------- From: Dallas <dallas@...> Date: 12/17/20 7:57 AM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] Upgrading the group, or... - Was: Re: Uploading Photos and Files to [email protected].
I don¡¯t see the poll either, I see poll in the menu but that is to create a new poll.?
I will contribute a reasonable amount too. ?What cost are you looking at?
I owned several yahoo groups with thousands of members and feel your pain on getting participation. ?I think a lot of people are like me and take daily digests and scan them for only topics that interest them. I think a lot of others use the groups more as a reference library and only go to it periodically for help and never would be aware of a poll or the fact the group needs money to operate. Everyone is hooked on free internet resources. ?I¡¯ve noticed Wikipedia is also soliciting funding.?
Dallas
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Re: Upgrading the group, or... - Was: Re: Uploading Photos and Files to [email protected].
I don¡¯t see the poll either, I see poll in the menu but that is to create a new poll.?
I will contribute a reasonable amount too. ?What cost are you looking at?
I owned several yahoo groups with thousands of members and feel your pain on getting participation. ?I think a lot of people are like me and take daily digests and scan them for only topics that interest them. I think a lot of others use the groups more as a reference library and only go to it periodically for help and never would be aware of a poll or the fact the group needs money to operate. Everyone is hooked on free internet resources. ?I¡¯ve noticed Wikipedia is also soliciting funding.?
Dallas
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Re: Upgrading the group, or... - Was: Re: Uploading Photos and Files to [email protected].
I can¡¯t find where I received a poll but I will place my vote as ¡° I¡¯m a lurker but I will contribute ¡°, a reasonable amount.?
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 9:18 PM Bill in OKC too via <wmrmeyers= [email protected]> wrote: Just in case the Poll email doesn't display to everyone, I've asked everyone who participates in the group to take the poll. So far, only 32 people have done so. That is less than 1% of the members registered. I've also set the size of photos that can be uploaded or attached to be resized to 1024x1024 pixels. That is probably not going to be very satisfactory for my crappy old eyes, anymore. Especially on my phone. I hope it helps the rest of you.
Bill in OKC
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Re: Upgrading the group, or... - Was: Re: Uploading Photos and Files to [email protected].
Just in case the Poll email doesn't display to everyone, I've asked everyone who participates in the group to take the poll. So far, only 32 people have done so. That is less than 1% of the members registered. I've also set the size of photos that can be uploaded or attached to be resized to 1024x1024 pixels. That is probably not going to be very satisfactory for my crappy old eyes, anymore. Especially on my phone. I hope it helps the rest of you.
Bill in OKC
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Well, we've had 32 people including myself take the poll. Less than 1% of the group. I thank those of you who took the time to vote, even if you don't want to contribute. I've looked at the photos, and I'm not seeing much of anything I think should not be preserved. IIRC, we have over 4300 members. If you lurk, or participate, but have not yet taken the poll, would you please do so??
I cannot do this by myself. Joe cannot do it by himself. We need some help here, folks! And if you have photos in an album that you don't think we need on the group anymore, would you please remove them? If you cannot get them to go, tell me about in a private email and I'll try to do it for you. You can email me at wmrmeyers (at) sbcglobal (dot) net or (at) yahoo (dot) com
Bill in OKC
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Re: My Bandsaw Modifications
Good info John. I haven¡¯t been using my bandsaw all that long (new to it), but so far with the blade brushes I put on it, I haven¡¯t had any issues with the guide bearings. They have none or almost no clearance to the blade as it was the only way I could get adjusted to cut square. I¡¯m holding .002-.003 on a 2¡± diameter cut. I guess time will tell how they hold up.
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Re: My Bandsaw Modifications
Staggered guide rollers are not a new idea, several of the old-time (80's or 90's?) 4x6's had it as a feature (Ridgid I think was one brand (as in the pipe wrenches).
I came at it from my obsession with square cutting.? You get best blade support and hence most accurate cutting on a normal saw with zero clearance between the rollers and the blade.? But the bearings just destroy themselves in short order because of swarf rolling through the zero gap, putting huge load spikes into them.
So I made completely new guide assemblies and drilled the guide brackets (that the rollers attach to) so the rollers are only 0.022"? apart (in line with the blade).? Both rollers are on concentric mounts, so there is no way to adjust them. The blade 'snakes' the extra 0.003" and is very rigidly held and absolutely square to the brackets.? Makes the blade a bit harder to put on as there are no pinch-rollers to hold it any more, but its ok. Finished making them a month or 2 back and haven't evaluated them fully yet, but early indications are good.??
I've not investigated it, but I think you'd be able to jigger the standard guide brackets by filling in the hole that mounts the outside side guide roller, by Loctiting?a bit of studding in place, or a rod in if its not threaded, and then redrilling, so the bearing mount is 4-6mm higher on the upper guide and same amount lower on the lower guide.? It doesn't need much.?
Its nice to have removed an adjustment point and improved rigidity, plus the side guide rollers should last indefinitely - jv
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Re: Entire head coming down at an angle?
Mostly I'm trying to educate myself..? When you write stuff down, things occur to you that wouldn't otherwise, and you get new insight.
Like Rick says "All of us are smarter than any one of us"- jv
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Re: Entire head coming down at an angle?
Hi John,
I *thought* I needed to reduce the RHS shaft diameter, but it turns out I need to reduce the LHS.? ?I tested a series of different shim thicknesses and measured the top/bottom thickness differences.? If you plot the data in Excel you can come to a pretty close value for zero thickness difference on your test part.? ?
I read your paper a number of times and you are correct that one needs to machine down the shaft on the side where you have to shim.? ?I was doing this in my head and got it backwards.? ?I'm taking some time off from work over the holidays and will do this mod during this time.? ?
Yes, you are correct, the total run out should be around 0.066".? ?I was thinking about using a dial indicator and subtracting the high from the low value.
Thanks again for the detailed write up!? ?I know it takes significant effort to write this stuff up and I appreciate the time you're taking to educate all of us.
Dave
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Re: My Bandsaw Modifications
Hi John,
Have you written up anything regarding the guide roller modification you mentioned?? It sounds interesting.
Thanks!
Mark
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Re: My Bandsaw Modifications
Wax or kerosene ?for aluminum, dry for brass are traditional. I also found that using WD-40 from a pump can deliver just a small amount of lube to the cut and can be done as needed.
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Re: Entire head coming down at an angle?
On 12/15/2020 5:48 AM, John Vreede wrote: I just filed the old shaft.? Mark's lathe method is for those that have one.
I thought you said you needed to put shim under the RHS (next to the blade). If that is the case you file or turn off the shaft on the RHS, because you are lowering the shaft and so eliminating the need for shim.
If you needed 0.033" of shim then one jaw is moved only 0.033", but the Total Indicated Runout will be 0.066".
Be careful when turning and approach the amount you think you need to take off in several bites, a series of "80% of remaining amount" is about right.? Its easy to replace the shaft, try out and confirm the improved squareness.? It's hard to put back metal if you've turned off too much! - jv That depends on what kind if welding equipment you have , John ! -- Snag
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Bill in OKC too
John Vreede