outburst this evening
Clear conditions before cloud approached: 5x60s unfiltered UCAC4 Pleased to have seen the outburst before reading the news... 0029P KC2025 05 25.92385 09 41 38.98 +10 18 40.4 14.24R Y98 0029P KC2025 05 25.93149 09 41 39.10 +10 18 39.4 14.24R Y98 0029P KC2025 05 25.93496 09 41 39.18 +10 18 39.1 14.25R Y98 Cheers Tim Haymes
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Excellent night (for a change) - NEW OUTBURST !
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And your 10 x 1min exposures have caught it on the rise to another strong outburst! Well done, Patrick. Richard Here are the latest observations: 0029P C2025 05 24.71164 09 41 15.73 +10 20 46.8 16.79R L81 5.22" (5.67") 4x120s Lum Pearce 0029P KC2025 05 24.91695 09 41 19.58 +10 20 24.6 16.92R Y88 5.04" (5.32") R 4x120s Phillips 0029P KC2025 05 24.92251 09 41 19.69 +10 20 23.6 16.84R Y88 0029P KC2025 05 24.92808 09 41 19.79 +10 20 22.9 16.87R Y88 0029P C2025 05 25.16559 09 41 24.30 +10 19 59.1 14.86R 718 5.18" (5.55") 60s Clear Wiggins 0029P C2025 05 25.16642 09 41 24.32 +10 19 58.8 14.85R 718 0029P C2025 05 25.16726 09 41 24.33 +10 19 58.8 14.84R 718 0029P C2025 05 25.16810 09 41 24.36 +10 19 58.8 14.79R 718 0029P C2025 05 25.16893 09 41 24.35 +10 19 58.7 14.78R 718 0029P C2025 05 25.16976 09 41 24.38 +10 19 58.7 14.77R 718 0029P C2025 05 25.17060 09 41 24.38 +10 19 58.6 14.76R 718 0029P C2025 05 25.17143 09 41 24.40 +10 19 58.5 14.76R 718 0029P C2025 05 25.17227 09 41 24.44 +10 19 58.4 14.71R 718 0029P C2025 05 25.17310 09 41 24.43 +10 19 58.3 14.72R 718
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29P undergone the new moderately strong outburst
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Dear colleagues, I've just observed 29P/S-W with 1.0-m telescope, the comet is in outburst with pseudo-nucleus mag ~13.7R (image in attachment). Time near 2025-05-13 18:10 UT I've already sent my photometry report. Best regards, A. Novichoniok.
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29P/Schwassmann-wachmann: ~100 days of mini-outbursts - What next?
This is a screendump from the current MISSION 29P News Page showing the lightcurve from the last 76 days of observations. Some particularly untypical behaviour occurred between April 15 and April 24 that terminated in two mini-outbursts. Compare that behaviour with the most recent May 04 outburst that has faded rapidly. If the brightness fades past R(1,1,0) value of 9.0 there is a high probability of another mini-event. The last two strong outbursts took place on February 01.7 and 02.4, the earlier event having triggered the later one. The next time this region of the nucleus emerges from the nightside will be about May 25-30 (i.e. two revolutions of the nucleus later) when we can expect a further strong outburst. Do keep up coverage of this bizarre object as it is now approaching low solar elongation and I am keen that we follow it for as long as possible . Clear skies, Richard Miles BAA
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Comet 29P: How strong outbursts differ from weak outbursts
Prior to 2014 weak outbursts had never been detected and recognised. Here are plots for both 'strong' and 'weak' events, the boundary between the two being an intensity of 4.0 nucleus-equivalents: As you can see the two phenomena differ in several ways: N.B. Other analyses show no causal link indicating that a weak outburst can trigger a strong event. Keep up the good work observers! Richard Miles BAA
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29P activity - approach to quiescence - update
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It is now 68 days since the last strong outburst and 13 days since the last weak outburst so the nucleus is now visible through a relatively feeble coma. The brightness of the coma alone (nucleus contribution subtracted) is about 1.1 nucleus equivalents (mag 17.0R). About 70% of all outbursts happen when the remaining coma is brighter than it is at the moment as can be seen from this plot: The question is - How much fainter will the inner coma become before we see any sort of further outburst? Richard
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Mini-outburst of 29P discovered by Jean-Francois Soulier this evening
A 0.6-mag amplitude event was first detected by Jean-Fran?ois this evening. Here are the data we have already: 0029P KC2025 03 28.93351 09 38 36.948+10 41 10.78 16.68R I79 5.30" (5.56") 3x120s r Buczynski 0029P KC2025 03 28.93858 09 38 36.878+10 41 11.00 16.70R I79 0029P KC2025 03 28.94375 09 38 36.784+10 41 11.29 16.75R I79 0029P KC2025 03 28.98248 09 38 36.24 +10 41 13.3 16.74R I81 5.20" (5.72") r 3x120s Buczynski 0029P KC2025 03 28.98728 09 38 36.15 +10 41 13.6 16.59R I81 Mini-outburst at 2025 03 29.40 ¡À 0.32 16.75R => 16.11R (Intensity = 1.9 nucleus-equivalents) 0029P C2025 03 29.80785 09 38 24.75 +10 41 58.8 15.89R C10 6.48¡å (7.29¡å) Clear Soulier 0029P C2025 03 29.84672 09 38 24.15 +10 42 02.8 16.11R L09 5.25" (5.62") r 120s Miles 0029P C2025 03 29.88001 09 38 23.67 +10 42 04.6 16.11R L09 5.25" (5.62") r 120s Miles Richard
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Potential for a strong outburst of 29P between March 30 and April 02
The last strong outburst was on February 02.43 ¡À 0.05. So given the rate of fading at present, we might expect another strong outburst between March 30 and April 02. Here's the lightcurve based on the latest 251 reports / sets of images, submitted since February 24. If the strong cryo-eruption takes place then it is from the same active source region on the surface, which erupted on February 02. If so then it has taken just a single revolution of the nucleus to recharge the cryomagma 'chamber'. If not, then we may have to wait another 58 days or so! Richard
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29P at 16.4
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Hi All, Some measured from the evening of the 26th March 0029P KC2025 03 26.96769 09 39 06.10 +10 39 16.5 16.42R Y98 0029P KC2025 03 26.97463 09 39 05.95 +10 39 17.1 16.34R Y98 0029P KC2025 03 26.98227 09 39 05.82 +10 39 17.5 16.39R Y98 2460761.46769 16.415 R C 118.13 28.632 UCAC4 0029P 2460761.47463 16.342 R C 109.38 28.696 UCAC4 0029P 2460761.48227 16.390 R C 110.19 28.748 UCAC4 0029P I was using a modified optical train (longer focal length 1810mm). The aperture was increased to 8 pix (was7) Tim C11, QHY174mGPS (5.9x5.9u), Unfiltered, 60s subs, UCAC4 (Track n Stack 4 x 60s)
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50 days and counting + Forthcoming talk on 29P on 2025 March 26 in London
Unusually 29P is now exactly 50 days on since its last strong outburst on 2025 February 02.4. We have had SIX mini-outbursts, a rather separate phenomenon, since then and so the question is - When will we see another intense eruption from the nucleus? 2025 is almost one orbit of the Sun since 2010 when this object began to exhibit fewer strong events. Will we see a repeat of this change in behaviour, which can continue for three or four years? Do keep up the task of monitoring 29P. On this subject, I shall be giving a 45-minute talk at the next BAA meeting held at the Institute of Physics in London next Wednesday 26th March starting around 18:00 UT. Details are on this webpage where you will also see a link to the BAA YouTube channel as the whole meeting will be broadcast live: https://britastro.org/event/baa-meeting-8 If you can't watch live then a recording of the event will be uploaded a few days later to the BAA YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/britishastronomical The talk I'm giving will compare and contrast 29P with the recent apparition of comet 12P/Pons-Brooks and also mention Halley's Comet's outbursts. Comet 12P is a ¡®Halley-type¡¯ comet in a 71-year orbit, which also at perihelion approaches the Sun well within the Earth's orbit. Clear skies, Richard Miles BAA
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29P status report: 5 mini-outbursts in the last 42 days
Thank you all the observers who have been contributing to the project of late. You have done well. Having lots of contributions enables us to confirm even very weak outbursts as can be seen with the March 6th event. Here's a close-up of the last 4 out of 5 mini-outbursts: MISSION 29P has been going 11 years to date during which we have witnessed 254 outbursts, 57% of which have been of the mini-outburst variety. On average we cover 82% of each apparition, losing 18% to solar conjunctions. That means that on average 29P has exhibited 28 outbursts per annum - FOUR times the number that are claimed to take place according to Wikipedia! We have detailed observations of the rise in brightness after about 10 of these and in all cases it appears that the active ejection stage only lasts a matter of minutes (max. ~10 min) after which we see the expanding optically opaque ejecta cloud increasing in size and brightness for up to 20-30 minutes. Then further expansion renders it optically transparent after several hours when maximum brightness is reached. In NO case out of >250 outbursts do we see jets develop, so when a fissure does appear it promptly empties its ejecta into the vacuum of space in one short process before resealing. This behaviour is characteristic of a classic cryovolcanic eruption in which a fluid cryomagma exists at a positive pressure beneath a consolidated crust. The rapid expansion of gas and boiling of the liquid fraction during the ejection phase extracts large amounts of heat energy from the remaining cryomagma, which quickly cools and solidifies bringing the eruption to a halt. We have also seen that strong outbursts tend to trigger further strong outbursts within a day or two, suggestive of debris falling back and fracturing the crust, or precipitating low-albedo dust that causes sealing material to warm up, soften and melt provoking the triggered event. 29P appears to be entering a new phase in its behaviour when we start to see strong outbursts only coming from one side / hemisphere of the nucleus. This phase may last another 3 years. If so, we will have a good opportunity to verify the previous 57.7-day rotation period that used the 2010-2014 observations. Maybe the retro effect of eruptions will have slowed it down slightly? Do keep up the good work everyone, Richard
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SMALL OUTBURST
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Dear All, Could it be that 29P is undergoing a small outburst? Yesterday evening mag around 16.2, Now 15.8... Could be nothing... Best Regards, Mr. Pieter-Jan Dekelver
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29P Very faint (0.12 mag) outburst detected thanks to the contributions from many observers
Occasionally, 29P undergoes a particularly weak outburst, the latest as just happened, having an amplitude of just 0.12 magnitudes: The absolute magnitude of the nucleus is 9.77R (¡À0.04 mag) - a base level that is never reached in practice. That is because there is a continual outgassing in the background as gas and dust escape through regions of the crust that are porous. Other parts of the nucleus develop strong areas of crust through which escape of gas has almost stopped such that the cryo-magma beneath develops sufficient pressure that an intense outburst can take place. The background flow rate of dust and gas (mainly gas) ensure that 29P always possesses a 'quiescent coma'. Do keep a close watch for any more mini-outbursts. If a strong cryo-eruption happens, the ejecta is so intense that we are blinded by the bright coma and it becomes impossible to detect weak mini-outbursts like the recent two. Several weeks pass before the coma disperses and we have a chance to watch this unique 'quiescent activity' of 29P. Richard
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29P Occultation update and latest lightcurve
2025 March 2: Stellar occultation update / Mini-outburst on 2025 March 01 discovered by Nick Quinn The past 19 days have seen the pseudo-nucleus gradually fade from magnitude 14.8R to 16.5. Yesterday, thanks to Nick Quinn observing from Steyning in the UK, a 0.4-mag outburst was detected. Thanks also to Patrick Wiggins observing from Utah about 6 hours earlier we have been able to tie down the time of this step-change in brightness to an accuracy of 0.2 days. On the occultation front, we have to thank Christian Weber and Dave Herald, who by chasing up some negative reports has managed to constrain the size and shape of the nucleus in a useful manner. Here¡¯s a close-up view of the latest occultation chords. Still only one positive event. The path appears to have shifted roughly 170 km south of the predicted path. The two observers either side of the total occultation were Matthieu Conjat from Nice, France and Patrice Le Guen from Toulon, France. This result shows that the nucleus shape is far from being bi-lobal. Richard Miles (BAA)
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Images on
Measures from last night in good seeing. Expanding coma with detail. https://britastro.org/observations/observation.php?id=20250223_180920_9c57dcff80d545ee 0029P KC2025 02 22.91140 09 51 04.77 +09 52 19.2 16.11R Y98 0029P KC2025 02 22.91518 09 51 04.66 +09 52 19.5 16.16R Y98 0029P KC2025 02 22.91869 09 51 04.57 +09 52 19.9 16.14R Y98 0029P KC2025 02 22.92181 09 51 04.48 +09 52 20.2 16.15R Y98 2460729.41140 16.106 R C 51.21 28.068 UCAC4 0029P 2460729.41518 16.160 R C 57.07 28.071 UCAC4 0029P 2460729.41869 16.140 R C 63.61 28.083 UCAC4 0029P 2460729.42181 16.154 R C 58.26 28.085 UCAC4 0029P Regards, Tim Haymes C11 F5.8, QHY174mGPS Track-n-stack 10x30s x 4 epochs (unfiltered)
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29P occultation
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Dear All, I also observed on Feb. 5 from Padova (Italy), theoretically with a low probability of observing the event being roughly a hundred kilometres further north of the planned occultation zone. Due to my limited equipment (15 cm) I had to use 2 sec. expositions to achieve enough signal, too long for a detailed monitoring. In the limits of my observing conditions the occultation is negative. Giannantonio Milani
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Occultation 29P
Dear all, On the evening of Wednesday, February 5, 2025, there was a stellar occultation of a magnitude 13 star in Leo by the nucleus of comet 29P/Schwassmann-Wachmann. From the ALMO Observatory MPC G18 (near Bologna), the occultation is negative, even if the acquired data are still being analyzed. Regards Adriano Valvasori
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Last night's occultation event
I recorded from 23:04:21 to 23:19:59 at 500ms exposure (FITS). A gradual increase in brightness was recorded compared to two comparison stars. This was probably caused by the brighter part of the coma moving into the measurement aperture (Tangra). Here is my light curve. Blue is the target. I will be reporting to SODIS and the OccultPortal. Predicted mid time was around 2311 30s UT Tim Haymes Steeple Aston, Oxfordshire Y98 [ C11 F5.8, QHY174m-GPS. exp 500ms. No filter, as FITS sequence ]
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Stellar Occultation by Comet 29P/Schwassmann-Wachmann on 2025 February good luck to observers !
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Richard Miles via groups.io <rmiles.btee@...> Date: Tuesday, February 4, 2025 at 4:53 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [29P-ml] Stellar Occultation by Comet 29P/Schwassmann-Wachmann on 2025 February 05 23:06-23:11UT - UPDATE A reminder about this unique event crossing Europe and Asia within less than 24 hours from now. N.B. The comet had two outbursts on February 01.7 and February 02.4 so some possibility exists that obscuring material has entered a temporary orbit within a few hundred kilometres of the nucleus. Similarly some ejecta fall back onto the nucleus after a few days and this may be detected also. Observers anywhere within Europe might try to monitor this once-in-a-lifetime event as negative observations do add to our knowledge. Details of the occultation are available at the Lucky Star Predictions webpage: https://www.lesia.obspm.fr/lucky-star/occ.php?p=146316 Other details have been posted on the BAA's MISSION 29P News webpage at: https://britastro.org/section_information_/comet-section-overview/mission-29p-2/mission-29p-centaur-comet-observing-campaign The coma around the nucleus is continuing to fade so we can expect magnitude drops of between 1.0 and 2.5 mag for a total occultation, depending on the size of the photometric measuring aperture - smaller apertures yield greater magnitude drops. The expected maximum duration of the event will be about 3.5 seconds so a telescope of 0.15-m aperture or preferably larger is recommended. Video cameras or fast frame-rate CMOS cameras are recommended to provide a permanent record of the event are best to be used. Absolute timing accuracy should be high (better than 0.2 sec if possible). Video cameras with GPS time insertion are particularly good. However since the track covers areas of high population, if many timing chords are obtained it will also be useful if an observation of the 'duration' of the occultation is obtained using manual timing to an accuracy of about 1 second or better. Clear skies, Richard Miles British Astronomical Association (BAA)
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Stellar Occultation by Comet 29P/Schwassmann-Wachmann on 2025 February 05 23:06-23:11UT?- UPDATE
A reminder about this unique event crossing Europe and Asia within less than 24 hours from now. N.B. The comet had two outbursts on February 01.7 and February 02.4 so some possibility exists that obscuring material has entered a temporary orbit within a few hundred kilometres of the nucleus. Similarly some ejecta fall back onto the nucleus after a few days and this may be detected also. Observers anywhere within Europe might try to monitor this once-in-a-lifetime event as negative observations do add to our knowledge. Details of the occultation are available at the Lucky Star Predictions webpage: https://www.lesia.obspm.fr/lucky-star/occ.php?p=146316 Other details have been posted on the BAA's MISSION 29P News webpage at: https://britastro.org/section_information_/comet-section-overview/mission-29p-2/mission-29p-centaur-comet-observing-campaign The coma around the nucleus is continuing to fade so we can expect magnitude drops of between 1.0 and 2.5 mag for a total occultation, depending on the size of the photometric measuring aperture - smaller apertures yield greater magnitude drops. The expected maximum duration of the event will be about 3.5 seconds so a telescope of 0.15-m aperture or preferably larger is recommended. Video cameras or fast frame-rate CMOS cameras are recommended to provide a permanent record of the event are best to be used. Absolute timing accuracy should be high (better than 0.2 sec if possible). Video cameras with GPS time insertion are particularly good. However since the track covers areas of high population, if many timing chords are obtained it will also be useful if an observation of the 'duration' of the occultation is obtained using manual timing to an accuracy of about 1 second or better. Clear skies, Richard Miles British Astronomical Association (BAA)
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